LZR - It's Faster, but by how much ?

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After seeing a woman break 24 seconds and I think we can stop the discussion of "IF" the LZR suit is faster and start thinking "how much faster". The previous line of suits (Fastskin and so on) were pretty similiar to a shaved swimmer. Sure - they do feel like they make you float, but overall the times seemed to move along "in line" with what I would expect to see in terms of improvements in the sport. If the previous suits would have been that much faster than shaving, you would have never seen people just using the legskins. By the way - for us Masters swimmers there was always the added benefit of keeping in all the "extra layers of skin". So how much faster are the LZR suits ? If I had to guess based on the results so far, I would say 0.25 to 0.30 per 50 and double that for the 100. I can see the Bernard going 48 low in the 100 and I can see Sullivan getting close or just breaking the 50 record. It makes sense that Libby Lenton would swim a 24.2 or so in the 50. I think one of the top regular teams out there should do a test - you need a good amount of world class swimmers training together to be able to do a test. Here is the test I would propose: 8-10 swimmers 2 days of testing 4x50 on 10 minutes all out Day 1 - swim 2 with a Fastskin2 followed by 2 with the LZR Day 2 - swim 2 with the LZR followed by 2 with the Fastskin2 Get the averages of all 10 swimmers - maybe drop the high and low and there you go. Why do the test ? I would HAVE to know. Swimming is a big part of your life and you just set a massive PR using this new technology - my very first question would be " How much was me and how much was the suit?"?
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  • My recollection is that FINA does not consider the suit to be a device but rather a "costume". Tyr ran into trouble with their wrist band type thing because FINA considered it to be a device rather than a costume. Sure, it's a costume...designed by NASA and tested in water flumes (or whatever)... I thought about this objection, but the rule I mentioned is the only place in the entire book that mentions buoyancy, and I know that suits aren't supposed to be buoyant. So I think a reasonable interpretation would be that a suit constitutes a "device." And what to make of the LZR's "support girdle" that is supposed to keep you in the correct body position (or some such). It isn't a means of propulsion but that seems to be a bit more than saying it is just a piece of cloth. Any lawyers or officials want to comment? USMS Rule book is at http://www.usms.org/rules/
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  • My recollection is that FINA does not consider the suit to be a device but rather a "costume". Tyr ran into trouble with their wrist band type thing because FINA considered it to be a device rather than a costume. Sure, it's a costume...designed by NASA and tested in water flumes (or whatever)... I thought about this objection, but the rule I mentioned is the only place in the entire book that mentions buoyancy, and I know that suits aren't supposed to be buoyant. So I think a reasonable interpretation would be that a suit constitutes a "device." And what to make of the LZR's "support girdle" that is supposed to keep you in the correct body position (or some such). It isn't a means of propulsion but that seems to be a bit more than saying it is just a piece of cloth. Any lawyers or officials want to comment? USMS Rule book is at http://www.usms.org/rules/
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