After seeing a woman break 24 seconds and I think we can stop the discussion of "IF" the LZR suit is faster and start thinking "how much faster".
The previous line of suits (Fastskin and so on) were pretty similiar to a shaved swimmer. Sure - they do feel like they make you float, but overall the times seemed to move along "in line" with what I would expect to see in terms of improvements in the sport. If the previous suits would have been that much faster than shaving, you would have never seen people just using the legskins. By the way - for us Masters swimmers there was always the added benefit of keeping in all the "extra layers of skin".
So how much faster are the LZR suits ?
If I had to guess based on the results so far, I would say 0.25 to 0.30 per 50 and double that for the 100. I can see the Bernard going 48 low in the 100 and I can see Sullivan getting close or just breaking the 50 record. It makes sense that Libby Lenton would swim a 24.2 or so in the 50.
I think one of the top regular teams out there should do a test - you need a good amount of world class swimmers training together to be able to do a test. Here is the test I would propose:
8-10 swimmers
2 days of testing
4x50 on 10 minutes all out
Day 1 - swim 2 with a Fastskin2 followed by 2 with the LZR
Day 2 - swim 2 with the LZR followed by 2 with the Fastskin2
Get the averages of all 10 swimmers - maybe drop the high and low and there you go.
Why do the test ? I would HAVE to know. Swimming is a big part of your life and you just set a massive PR using this new technology - my very first question would be " How much was me and how much was the suit?"?
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It's too bad people with a passion for swimming can only use that passion to try to stop inevitable change. Would be much more useful to work towards making swimming better. Turning back the clock on progress won't really get the sport anywhere. I bet you guys still wear Jimmy Connor grape smuggler shorts. Do you force your wives to watch flashdance on the betamax on Friday night?
BTW - my bike was 750 and I bought it used. Now, go off and sulk about lycra or non turbulent lane lines or anything else invented since 1971 for swimming. Because, as you know, in the words of your heroes, there's plenty of room at the Hotel Past-Glorification.
Hey Aquageek
The passion for swimming is what makes it attractive and if changes continue to take away that passion, the "inevitable change" will be that most people will cease to have any interest in swimming altogether.
In fact, too many colleges are draining their pools because of budget cuts and a general lack of interest in the sport. Also many high school and college students already hate taking P.E. and having to dress up in an uncomfortable suit is just another deterrent not to elect swimming.
Although improvements in pool equipment has made some things better, it’s perfectly obvious that the basic idea of swimming – being able to experience the unique sensation of having your entire body in the water- is not being made better by the additional coverage imposed by these technical suits. :shakeshead:
Dolphin 2 :)
It's too bad people with a passion for swimming can only use that passion to try to stop inevitable change. Would be much more useful to work towards making swimming better. Turning back the clock on progress won't really get the sport anywhere. I bet you guys still wear Jimmy Connor grape smuggler shorts. Do you force your wives to watch flashdance on the betamax on Friday night?
BTW - my bike was 750 and I bought it used. Now, go off and sulk about lycra or non turbulent lane lines or anything else invented since 1971 for swimming. Because, as you know, in the words of your heroes, there's plenty of room at the Hotel Past-Glorification.
Hey Aquageek
The passion for swimming is what makes it attractive and if changes continue to take away that passion, the "inevitable change" will be that most people will cease to have any interest in swimming altogether.
In fact, too many colleges are draining their pools because of budget cuts and a general lack of interest in the sport. Also many high school and college students already hate taking P.E. and having to dress up in an uncomfortable suit is just another deterrent not to elect swimming.
Although improvements in pool equipment has made some things better, it’s perfectly obvious that the basic idea of swimming – being able to experience the unique sensation of having your entire body in the water- is not being made better by the additional coverage imposed by these technical suits. :shakeshead:
Dolphin 2 :)
