LZR - It's Faster, but by how much ?

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After seeing a woman break 24 seconds and I think we can stop the discussion of "IF" the LZR suit is faster and start thinking "how much faster". The previous line of suits (Fastskin and so on) were pretty similiar to a shaved swimmer. Sure - they do feel like they make you float, but overall the times seemed to move along "in line" with what I would expect to see in terms of improvements in the sport. If the previous suits would have been that much faster than shaving, you would have never seen people just using the legskins. By the way - for us Masters swimmers there was always the added benefit of keeping in all the "extra layers of skin". So how much faster are the LZR suits ? If I had to guess based on the results so far, I would say 0.25 to 0.30 per 50 and double that for the 100. I can see the Bernard going 48 low in the 100 and I can see Sullivan getting close or just breaking the 50 record. It makes sense that Libby Lenton would swim a 24.2 or so in the 50. I think one of the top regular teams out there should do a test - you need a good amount of world class swimmers training together to be able to do a test. Here is the test I would propose: 8-10 swimmers 2 days of testing 4x50 on 10 minutes all out Day 1 - swim 2 with a Fastskin2 followed by 2 with the LZR Day 2 - swim 2 with the LZR followed by 2 with the Fastskin2 Get the averages of all 10 swimmers - maybe drop the high and low and there you go. Why do the test ? I would HAVE to know. Swimming is a big part of your life and you just set a massive PR using this new technology - my very first question would be " How much was me and how much was the suit?"?
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  • Did they wear the LZR for all their events at conference or only the free relay? If they wore them for all the events, then you can't draw any firm conclusions (and you shouldn't t be cherry-picking your data!) since, as you said, any differences can be assigned to either the suit or differences in taper. (In the post you gave from Gary Hall, he sure didn't seem to think the suit was an adequate explanation for 21.2 in the 50 free.) They wore them on the 800 free relay at conferance and they didn't wear them on the 800 free relay at NCAA's. I also just talked to some swimmers that were training with one of the US's top sprinters a few weeks back and all testing the suit. This elite male swimmer popped a 22.7LCM 50 in workout followed by a 50.4LCM 100... In my mind there is something incredible going on with this suit...but I also think there are other factors at play and have serious doubts just as Gary does about PED's.
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  • Did they wear the LZR for all their events at conference or only the free relay? If they wore them for all the events, then you can't draw any firm conclusions (and you shouldn't t be cherry-picking your data!) since, as you said, any differences can be assigned to either the suit or differences in taper. (In the post you gave from Gary Hall, he sure didn't seem to think the suit was an adequate explanation for 21.2 in the 50 free.) They wore them on the 800 free relay at conferance and they didn't wear them on the 800 free relay at NCAA's. I also just talked to some swimmers that were training with one of the US's top sprinters a few weeks back and all testing the suit. This elite male swimmer popped a 22.7LCM 50 in workout followed by a 50.4LCM 100... In my mind there is something incredible going on with this suit...but I also think there are other factors at play and have serious doubts just as Gary does about PED's.
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