After seeing a woman break 24 seconds and I think we can stop the discussion of "IF" the LZR suit is faster and start thinking "how much faster".
The previous line of suits (Fastskin and so on) were pretty similiar to a shaved swimmer. Sure - they do feel like they make you float, but overall the times seemed to move along "in line" with what I would expect to see in terms of improvements in the sport. If the previous suits would have been that much faster than shaving, you would have never seen people just using the legskins. By the way - for us Masters swimmers there was always the added benefit of keeping in all the "extra layers of skin".
So how much faster are the LZR suits ?
If I had to guess based on the results so far, I would say 0.25 to 0.30 per 50 and double that for the 100. I can see the Bernard going 48 low in the 100 and I can see Sullivan getting close or just breaking the 50 record. It makes sense that Libby Lenton would swim a 24.2 or so in the 50.
I think one of the top regular teams out there should do a test - you need a good amount of world class swimmers training together to be able to do a test. Here is the test I would propose:
8-10 swimmers
2 days of testing
4x50 on 10 minutes all out
Day 1 - swim 2 with a Fastskin2 followed by 2 with the LZR
Day 2 - swim 2 with the LZR followed by 2 with the Fastskin2
Get the averages of all 10 swimmers - maybe drop the high and low and there you go.
Why do the test ? I would HAVE to know. Swimming is a big part of your life and you just set a massive PR using this new technology - my very first question would be " How much was me and how much was the suit?"?
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Here's the situation: I am competing against Swimmer X in a race. Whereas I am wearing a standard, inexpensive pair of jammers, Swimmer X is wearing the new LZR.
Assume that Swimmer X beats me by 0.01 second. Psychologically, what is going on? If Swimmer X believes his suit gave him an advantage, then Swimmer X also knows I am the better swimmer, despite the fact that his time was better. Afterall, the suit provided Swimmer X with at least 0.01 seconds in advantage. This is why I will never wear an LZR. When I win, I want to know that I won because of my ability, training, and determination, not technology.
Assume that Swimmer X loses to me by 0.01 seconds. Psychologically what is going on? I know that I am the better swimmer because all the technology in the world could not help Swimmer X. This is why I will never wear an LZR. When I win, I want to know that I won because of my ability, training, and determination, not technology.
Anyone who wants to wear an LZR or other technical suit may do so, but at least I know who the superior athlete is when I win in a standard, inexpensive pair of jammers.
That's my theory.
Here's the situation: I am competing against Swimmer X in a race. Whereas I am wearing a standard, inexpensive pair of jammers, Swimmer X is wearing the new LZR.
Assume that Swimmer X beats me by 0.01 second. Psychologically, what is going on? If Swimmer X believes his suit gave him an advantage, then Swimmer X also knows I am the better swimmer, despite the fact that his time was better. Afterall, the suit provided Swimmer X with at least 0.01 seconds in advantage. This is why I will never wear an LZR. When I win, I want to know that I won because of my ability, training, and determination, not technology.
Assume that Swimmer X loses to me by 0.01 seconds. Psychologically what is going on? I know that I am the better swimmer because all the technology in the world could not help Swimmer X. This is why I will never wear an LZR. When I win, I want to know that I won because of my ability, training, and determination, not technology.
Anyone who wants to wear an LZR or other technical suit may do so, but at least I know who the superior athlete is when I win in a standard, inexpensive pair of jammers.
That's my theory.
