I've just spoken with some swimmers (USS/NCAA) who have tried the suit, there is certainly some effect there but again the questions being posed by a`LOT of people about PED's are relevant. I'm sorry but I'm in the camp of folks who (sadly) feel that there has been a significant increase in the use of PED's in swimming...whether or not that is the case with Eamon and his girlfriend we may never know.
More from Mr. Hall on the subject. I will say that I admire Gary for taking the position he has and being vocal about it...there will be more of this to come from the elite swimmers in the US/World but not enough and few will do it during an Olympic year. My question to Swimmer Bill and the other folks in the swimming media....when do we see some real in depth investigative journalism digging into this sport?
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Gary Hall Jr.
Joined: 05 Oct 2005
Posts: 583
Location: Sunny Florida
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:58 am Post subject:
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Matt Grevers isn't coming out of nowhere, he's coming from a long standing reputable sprint program that has produced many champions. Eamon is coming out of nowhere, or he is the first to come from a great unproven coach- a possibility.
Does anyone else think that it's just a little bit strange that Eamon's girlfriend is also coincidentally and at the same time obliterating world records? Coming out of nowhere, from a different unknown coach/program? Coming out of nowhere, peaking at the EXACT same time, to simultaneously obliterate world records? Rice OBLITERATED the last standing dirty Chinese record. I saw that Chinese world record when it was set. I saw the woman who set it. She was stronger than Alain Bernard. Do I think that Rice is dirty? I am laughing through my nose.
I have already tried the new suit. I think it's a great suit. I didn't break any world records and I'm a pretty talented swimmer. If I go a 21.4 I will take back everything that I have said and apologize, and be really happy about it too.
It is not the suit. I am sorry. I wish it was. Believe me, I am going to try to convince myself by trials that it is a magic suit that will send me into another dimension, which is where Sullivan is.
"16 World records in this new suit.... certainly not all of the athletes are cheating... don't think you think the suit is playing a large role here?"
How many swimmers broke those 16 records. Is it possible that they are cheating? All of them? Yes, it is possible. Look at sports like cycling and track. Is swimming becoming dirty like those sports? Why is this not possible? Maybe we should be shocked not that chemistry has taken over our sport but rather that it took this long for chemistry to infiltrate our sport.
Paul Brown Sr, I am saying that I can not go a 21.2 second 50 LCM meter free. 21.2 is faster than my short course meters time and I have won the 50 free in the last two Olympic Games. That should tell you something about where Sullivan is right now. It's unbelievable, meaning it is not believable. I think that 21.5 is possible. 21.2? No f...ing way.
Excuse my emphatic language.
All of these folks that say, "Look at Eamon, he's a skinny little guy! He's not cheating!". But in cycling you look at these guys that are doped to the gills and they are skinnier than Eamon. If you snorted a bunch of meth amphetamine before your race it would definitely be performance enhancing but you wouldn't look any different. Eamon may not be on steroids but he may be taking something that is performance enhancing.
Designer drugs can be made pretty easily, just ask Victor Conte, the mastermind (and failed bassist for a bad rock band) behind BALCO. Just because Eamon isn't the French Hulk in appearance doesn't mean that he is clean.
If I drop to a 21.4 that will be a .3 second drop in an eight year stretch for me. Eamon has obliterated the world record set by a talented swimmer named Alex Popov by almost a half second. .8 seconds and counting in a year...
16 World records and counting...
Take it from a guy that has worn the suit, the only guy that you can talk to that has worn the suit, a guy that is paid to say that it is the greatest suit in the world and it is the greatest suit in the world by the way, it's not the suit.
CAN SWIMMING BE AS DIRTY AS TRACK AND FIELD OR CYCLING?
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Your friend in swimming,
Gary Hall Jr.
Long live the Race Club!
I've just spoken with some swimmers (USS/NCAA) who have tried the suit, there is certainly some effect there but again the questions being posed by a`LOT of people about PED's are relevant. I'm sorry but I'm in the camp of folks who (sadly) feel that there has been a significant increase in the use of PED's in swimming...whether or not that is the case with Eamon and his girlfriend we may never know.
More from Mr. Hall on the subject. I will say that I admire Gary for taking the position he has and being vocal about it...there will be more of this to come from the elite swimmers in the US/World but not enough and few will do it during an Olympic year. My question to Swimmer Bill and the other folks in the swimming media....when do we see some real in depth investigative journalism digging into this sport?
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Gary Hall Jr.
Joined: 05 Oct 2005
Posts: 583
Location: Sunny Florida
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:58 am Post subject:
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Matt Grevers isn't coming out of nowhere, he's coming from a long standing reputable sprint program that has produced many champions. Eamon is coming out of nowhere, or he is the first to come from a great unproven coach- a possibility.
Does anyone else think that it's just a little bit strange that Eamon's girlfriend is also coincidentally and at the same time obliterating world records? Coming out of nowhere, from a different unknown coach/program? Coming out of nowhere, peaking at the EXACT same time, to simultaneously obliterate world records? Rice OBLITERATED the last standing dirty Chinese record. I saw that Chinese world record when it was set. I saw the woman who set it. She was stronger than Alain Bernard. Do I think that Rice is dirty? I am laughing through my nose.
I have already tried the new suit. I think it's a great suit. I didn't break any world records and I'm a pretty talented swimmer. If I go a 21.4 I will take back everything that I have said and apologize, and be really happy about it too.
It is not the suit. I am sorry. I wish it was. Believe me, I am going to try to convince myself by trials that it is a magic suit that will send me into another dimension, which is where Sullivan is.
"16 World records in this new suit.... certainly not all of the athletes are cheating... don't think you think the suit is playing a large role here?"
How many swimmers broke those 16 records. Is it possible that they are cheating? All of them? Yes, it is possible. Look at sports like cycling and track. Is swimming becoming dirty like those sports? Why is this not possible? Maybe we should be shocked not that chemistry has taken over our sport but rather that it took this long for chemistry to infiltrate our sport.
Paul Brown Sr, I am saying that I can not go a 21.2 second 50 LCM meter free. 21.2 is faster than my short course meters time and I have won the 50 free in the last two Olympic Games. That should tell you something about where Sullivan is right now. It's unbelievable, meaning it is not believable. I think that 21.5 is possible. 21.2? No f...ing way.
Excuse my emphatic language.
All of these folks that say, "Look at Eamon, he's a skinny little guy! He's not cheating!". But in cycling you look at these guys that are doped to the gills and they are skinnier than Eamon. If you snorted a bunch of meth amphetamine before your race it would definitely be performance enhancing but you wouldn't look any different. Eamon may not be on steroids but he may be taking something that is performance enhancing.
Designer drugs can be made pretty easily, just ask Victor Conte, the mastermind (and failed bassist for a bad rock band) behind BALCO. Just because Eamon isn't the French Hulk in appearance doesn't mean that he is clean.
If I drop to a 21.4 that will be a .3 second drop in an eight year stretch for me. Eamon has obliterated the world record set by a talented swimmer named Alex Popov by almost a half second. .8 seconds and counting in a year...
16 World records and counting...
Take it from a guy that has worn the suit, the only guy that you can talk to that has worn the suit, a guy that is paid to say that it is the greatest suit in the world and it is the greatest suit in the world by the way, it's not the suit.
CAN SWIMMING BE AS DIRTY AS TRACK AND FIELD OR CYCLING?
_________________
Your friend in swimming,
Gary Hall Jr.
Long live the Race Club!
