Ande....having read your blog and a few others and seeing some of the times you've posted...as well as some of the mnd boggling in season/unrested swims going on this college and USS season I thought I'd bring up the topic of swimming fast in workout and in unrested meets.
Having always been a VERY slow workout swimmer as well as a poor untapered swimmer I'm always amazed at how fast others can go in those situations. But I have noticed that those same swimmers don't necessarilly have big drops for meets they rest and shave for.
So after seeing Michael Klueh from Texas go 4:11 unrested in the 500, my evil twin go 21.8/47.7 unrested (and at altitude), hearing you went 22.0 50 free and 2:00 in the 200 back at workout the question for everyone is what do you see in your own situations?
Note; one thing that a few of us have noticed is that big old clydesadle types like me usually are the ones that drop the most from resting....little jackrabbits like JS swim fast all the time and don't seem to take as big of drops rested.
Hi Paul,
yes, I tend to swim fast in practice
I hope to drop when I taper but I can't always count on it.
Part of it is because of the suit I train in and do fast swims in.
I train in a lycra brief, sometimes I wear a FS Jammers and other times my hineck, but I tend to indicate when I switch suits
over the years, what I've learned to count on is
the faster I swim in practice
the faster I'll swim in meets
back in 1996 I went 21.7 in the 50 in a meet
then rested a month then went 21.0
last year I was 22.30 at zones, but I'm a lot stronger now that I was a year ago from weight training. Also going into nationals, I plan to focus on strength and speed, then finally rest
so far this season in a meet
I've only been 49.7 in the 100 free
I hope to have a decent drop from there
I went 25.3 in the 50 bk, at 2007 zones I was 25.7
I've noticed sometimes in longer hard sets
instead of falling apart I'll get in a groove,
especially on descending swims with decent rest
I think that's what happened when I when I went
2:00.9 in a 200 bk in practice last week
plus on that set I was 3rd or 4th in my lane,
5 seconds behind Doug Ellis, he's 6 foot / 200 lbs
so I'm sure I had a bit of a draft
today I did a hard 200 bk and was only 2:04
but I was in a lane by myself
my buddy tyler is not great at stepping up on fast swims in practice
but he also wears a nylon training suit which is
thicker and heavier
today he did a 50 fl in 25.2
but he'll be 23 mid in a meet
in college John Smith was an amazing workout swimmer and a very consistent mid season meet swimmer.
I've noticed every now and then
sometimes in practice I'll punch a very swim
which I chalk up to timer error or breakthrough
Ande
Ande....having read your blog and a few others and seeing some of the times you've posted...as well as some of the mnd boggling in season/unrested swims going on this college and USS season I thought I'd bring up the topic of swimming fast in workout and in unrested meets.
Having always been a VERY slow workout swimmer as well as a poor untapered swimmer I'm always amazed at how fast others can go in those situations. But I have noticed that those same swimmers don't necessarilly have big drops for meets they rest and shave for.
So after seeing Michael Klueh from Texas go 4:11 unrested in the 500, my evil twin go 21.8/47.7 unrested (and at altitude), hearing you went 22.0 50 free and 2:00 in the 200 back at workout the question for everyone is what do you see in your own situations?
Note; one thing that a few of us have noticed is that big old clydesadle types like me usually are the ones that drop the most from resting....little jackrabbits like JS swim fast all the time and don't seem to take as big of drops rested.
Hi Paul,
yes, I tend to swim fast in practice
I hope to drop when I taper but I can't always count on it.
Part of it is because of the suit I train in and do fast swims in.
I train in a lycra brief, sometimes I wear a FS Jammers and other times my hineck, but I tend to indicate when I switch suits
over the years, what I've learned to count on is
the faster I swim in practice
the faster I'll swim in meets
back in 1996 I went 21.7 in the 50 in a meet
then rested a month then went 21.0
last year I was 22.30 at zones, but I'm a lot stronger now that I was a year ago from weight training. Also going into nationals, I plan to focus on strength and speed, then finally rest
so far this season in a meet
I've only been 49.7 in the 100 free
I hope to have a decent drop from there
I went 25.3 in the 50 bk, at 2007 zones I was 25.7
I've noticed sometimes in longer hard sets
instead of falling apart I'll get in a groove,
especially on descending swims with decent rest
I think that's what happened when I when I went
2:00.9 in a 200 bk in practice last week
plus on that set I was 3rd or 4th in my lane,
5 seconds behind Doug Ellis, he's 6 foot / 200 lbs
so I'm sure I had a bit of a draft
today I did a hard 200 bk and was only 2:04
but I was in a lane by myself
my buddy tyler is not great at stepping up on fast swims in practice
but he also wears a nylon training suit which is
thicker and heavier
today he did a 50 fl in 25.2
but he'll be 23 mid in a meet
in college John Smith was an amazing workout swimmer and a very consistent mid season meet swimmer.
I've noticed every now and then
sometimes in practice I'll punch a very swim
which I chalk up to timer error or breakthrough
Ande
Ande....having read your blog and a few others and seeing some of the times you've posted...as well as some of the mnd boggling in season/unrested swims going on this college and USS season I thought I'd bring up the topic of swimming fast in workout and in unrested meets.
Having always been a VERY slow workout swimmer as well as a poor untapered swimmer I'm always amazed at how fast others can go in those situations. But I have noticed that those same swimmers don't necessarilly have big drops for meets they rest and shave for.
So after seeing Michael Klueh from Texas go 4:11 unrested in the 500, my evil twin go 21.8/47.7 unrested (and at altitude), hearing you went 22.0 50 free and 2:00 in the 200 back at workout the question for everyone is what do you see in your own situations?
Note; one thing that a few of us have noticed is that big old clydesadle types like me usually are the ones that drop the most from resting....little jackrabbits like JS swim fast all the time and don't seem to take as big of drops rested.
