stroke help

Former Member
Former Member
hey, i want to know about my fly. i have some vids so you can give me some tips. also please note that in the IM vid i didn't turn hard because i was jsut preserving my rank, its in the next day that i haul(didn't wanna blow myself out in prelims ya know). www.youtube.com/watch for the 200 IM in SCM www.youtube.com/watch for my all out 50 fly, well 95% it was still prelims after all. any advice would be appreciated. thanks
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    I'd need to see what you're doing underwater but from what I can see, it looks like you're not driving your head / chest down deep enough. Please look at the competitors in the last Olympics and watch them. Every man and women in both the 100 and 200 drive their head down and chest deeper than their head. As they drive their head and chest down, there is an immediate pressing apart of the hands, a distict EVF, and a press backward. If I were you I'd work on DPS and trying to lower your 25 time. The turn issue is important (everyone sees that one). Streamlining off the walls is another issue (focus on improving your breakout times - Use the Hillmen Chart). I am guessing your ankle flexibility can be improved upon. Good luck, Coach T. P.S. Go to youtube or google and type in EVF + Swimming - you'll see some nice underwater video of Olympic Flyers thanks. very technical answer. so for the chest is there a specific time i should be driving my chest down? I'm watching some phelps fly video and i'm just trying to make sure I'm catching everything.
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  • Former Member
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    I'd need to see what you're doing underwater but from what I can see, it looks like you're not driving your head / chest down deep enough. Please look at the competitors in the last Olympics and watch them. Every man and women in both the 100 and 200 drive their head down and chest deeper than their head. As they drive their head and chest down, there is an immediate pressing apart of the hands, a distict EVF, and a press backward. If I were you I'd work on DPS and trying to lower your 25 time. The turn issue is important (everyone sees that one). Streamlining off the walls is another issue (focus on improving your breakout times - Use the Hillmen Chart). I am guessing your ankle flexibility can be improved upon. Good luck, Coach T. P.S. Go to youtube or google and type in EVF + Swimming - you'll see some nice underwater video of Olympic Flyers thanks. very technical answer. so for the chest is there a specific time i should be driving my chest down? I'm watching some phelps fly video and i'm just trying to make sure I'm catching everything.
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