2008 Big 12 Conference Swimming & Diving Championships
psych sheet
www.texassports.com/.../sw_big12_psych.pdf
Results
www.tsc.utexas.edu/.../index.htm
videos
www.flocasts.org/.../coverage.php
Records
www.usaswimming.org/.../Rulebook Records - Feb 18 2008.pdf
WHAT: 2008 Big 12 Conference Swimming and Diving Championships
WHERE: Lee and Joe Jamail Texas Swimming Center – Austin, Texas
WHEN: Wednesday, Feb. 27 through Saturday, March 1 (complete schedule below)
ADMISSION: $5 for adults and $2 for students, per session; all-session passes will be available for $20 for adults and $8 for students; NOTE: There is no admission charge for Wednesday’s events; doors will open and tickets will be available 1 hour prior to the start of each session.
PARKING: www.tsc.utexas.edu/.../
LIVE RESULTS: Click here for live results.
DEFENDING CHAMPIONS: The Texas men have won the previous 11 Big 12 Championship meets and set a new meet record with 1,114 points at the 2007 meet in College Station. The Texas A&M women edged the Texas women, 931-930 at the 2007 meet.
COMPLETE BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP SCHEDULE
Wednesday, Feb. 27
PRELIMINARIES
4:30 PM
One Meter Diving - Men
FINALS
6:00 PM
200 Medley Relay
One Meter Diving - Men
800 Freestyle Relay*
* The 800 free relay will begin 45 minutes after the conclusion of the 200 medley relay
Thursday, Feb. 28
PRELIMINARIES
10:00 AM
500 yard Freestyle
200 yard Individual Medley
50 yard Freestyle
*15 minute break
400 yard Medley Relay
1:00 PM
One Meter Diving - Women
FINALS
6:00 PM
500 yard Freestyle
200 yard Individual Medley
50 yard Freestyle
One Meter Diving - Women
400 yard Medley Relay
Friday, Feb. 29
PRELIMINARIES
10:00 AM
200 yard Freestyle Relay
400 yard Individual Medley
100 yard Butterfly
200 yard Freestyle
100 yard Breaststroke
100 yard Backstroke
11:30 AM
Three Meter Diving - Women
2:15 PM
Three Meter Diving - Men
FINALS
5:00 PM
Three Meter Diving - Women
6:00 PM
200 yard Freestyle Relay
400 yard Individual Medley
100 yard Butterfly
200 yard Freestyle
100 yard Breaststroke
100 yard Backstroke
Three Meter Diving - Men
Saturday, March 1
PRELIMINARIES
10:00 AM
200 yard Backstroke
100 yard Freestyle
200 yard Breaststroke
200 yard Butterfly
*15 minute break
400 yard Freestyle Relay
11:30 AM
Platform Diving - Men
2:30 PM
Platform Diving - Women
FINALS
5:00 PM
Platform Diving - Men
6:00 PM
200 yard Backstroke 100 yard Freestyle
*1650 yard Freestyle 200 yard Breaststroke
200 yard Butterfly Platform Diving - Women
400 yard Freestyle Relay
Read the artice below to get a picture of the University of Texas' athletic "economy."
www.statesman.com/.../0930utsportsmain.html
It is a mighty large operation. Only a few universities operate like Texas (Ohio State is right there). The amount spent on football is staggering but football makes a big profit. For some reason - people are willing to buy season tickets at $70 per game or lease suites for $30,000 per year. So it is hard to argue that football (at least at UT) deserves to spend the money they earn.
Other schools with weak football programs are the ones with problems. They don't make money like UT so they won't fund as many sports. Texas Tech use to have a swim team. So did Oklahoma. But to compete in football - they spend disproportionately more on football.
It is a systemic problem. Because college football and basketball are more like an entertainment business.
Your premise is entirely flawed. Some of us don't consider it getting screwed when women get the same sporting opportunties as men. As long as our universities dole out 60+ scholarships for football, the whole Title IX bashing argument is entirely moot.
The Robin Hood angle has been nicely used for many hundreds of years now to justify the exclusion of certain groups for various opportunities. Generally, once modern culture advances past this notion, we are all improved. I don't know many people who would espcially enjoy being referred to as poor and needy and in dire need of saving, other than Stud in his 100 free, but that's another story.
Sweet, the title IX argument is back on....I don't think you answered the question. If you are so concerned about fairness, how is it fair that women swimmers get more scholarships than men at many swimming programs? Maybe we should just litigate every school into oblivion.
It also could be asked, what is fair? Does fair mean equal numbers? Is participation in sports (where males outnumber females) a result of the white man's oppression or simply a result that we were created differently and may have different propensities? I suspect the truth lies somewhere between.
Your premise that modern culture has advanced and therefore able to accept the communal property (robin hood), peace, love, and understanding is probably false as evidenced by my patient yesterday complaining of "missing panties"--found in her rectum . I like the ideal of fairness, high culture, and high-mindedness, but my daily experience would argue otherwise.:blah:
Is participation in sports (where males outnumber females) a result of the white man's oppression or simply a result that we were created differently and may have different propensities.
Good point and relevant to swimming. With girls heats curently outnumbering boys about 3-1 in every meet I attend, maybe you are onto something here with scholarship disparity in the swimming world.
It's unfortunate that you have to seek the truth in your patient's asses, but hey, whatever you need to prove your point. In anus, veritas.
Good point and relevant to swimming. With girls heats curently outnumbering boys about 3-1 in every meet I attend, maybe you are onto something here with scholarship disparity in the swimming world.
It's unfortunate that you have to seek the truth in your patient's asses, but hey, whatever you need to prove your point. In anus, veritas.
So, now based on your most recent argument (or was that an argument--I can't read whether that was sarcasm) that participation ought to count for scholarship number, please explain women's basketball, hockey, etc.
By the way, I don't go looking for the truth in the ER, it finds me. It is often in different physical locations, but is always figuratively, and sometimes literally, the same place--the rectum.
You are seriously obsessed with the backside, an odd place to find all things truthful. Maybe the butt is the new tea leaves, I don't know, I'll defer to your knowledge on the subject.
Back to topic - my only point was that you were crying about the number of scholarship for men's versus women's swimming and I see many more women (girls) participating these days. As far as I know women's basketball teams are still 5-5 with 7 on the bench. I could be wrong, let me go inspect someone's rear and get back to you.
I simply do not believe Title IX is the end of modern men's sports. I personally am elated my kids have the same sporting opportunities that I had growing up in the late 60s and 70s, except football.
So, let's pretend it's your birthday and Title IX was rescinded. Do you really think universities would fund non-revenue sports? Or, do you think they'd dump even more money into football and basketball to generate even more revenue? Be careful what you ask for.
You are seriously obsessed with the backside, an odd place to find all things truthful. Maybe the butt is the new tea leaves, I don't know, I'll defer to your knowledge on the subject.
Back to topic - my only point was that you were crying about the number of scholarship for men's versus women's swimming and I see many more women (girls) participating these days. As far as I know women's basketball teams are still 5-5 with 7 on the bench. I could be wrong, let me go inspect someone's rear and get back to you.
I simply do not believe Title IX is the end of modern men's sports. I personally am elated my kids have the same sporting opportunities that I had growing up in the late 60s and 70s, except football.
So, let's pretend it's your birthday and Title IX was rescinded. Do you really think universities would fund non-revenue sports? Or, do you think they'd dump even more money into football and basketball to generate even more revenue? Be careful what you ask for.
So are you saying there is an equal number of males and females in the United States that want to play basketball? Have you not ever wondered why you pick up the sports page first and your wife picks up the front page? I believe it is a slippery slope legislating equality because it, in reality, is impossible.
You seem to want fairness on your terms. I think I agree with your premise of fairness in that males and females should have equal accessibility to sports. Unfortunately, programs need cash and the "fair" thing to me, is for those people that make the money, to have some say in how it is spent.
I don't want title IX rescinded (and I don't celebrate birthdays as they are way too depressing), but you are right but I believe for a different reason. The damage has been done with multiple lawsuits (or threatenings). Scum bag athletic directors and administrators would have no incentive to go back and pay for non-profitable programs.:whiteflag: