Geochuck's: Kicking is a Total Waste of Time Thread

Can't quite believe I somehow support Geochuck here + I have won many bets by kicking faster in Free than other people can swim - but this one really threw for a loop (love the last line of the blind path): TRAINING EMPHASIS ON KICKING DOES NOT IMPROVE FREE SWIMMING PERFORMANCE Konstantaki, M., & Winter, E. M. (2007). The effectiveness of a leg-kicking training program on performance and physiological measure of competitive swimmers. International Journal of Sports Science and Coaching, 2, 37-48. This study investigated the at .....] Tests like this are of course interesting to hear about, but.. a) is a test group of total 15 person representative at all of the swimming world? I would assume that a larger group would have been better b) What kind of swimmers were they? Were the even freestylers? c) What level? d) What were their "swimstyle"? Some swimmer are and will forevever be 2beat kickers.. with focus on strong stroke.. e) Did they also work on better combining their newly improved kick into normal swimming? Many questions.. I remember Anders Holmertz from Sweden. One of the best guys in 400m Free in the 80's and early 90's. He had no kick what-so-ever. Putting him on some extra kick focusing training would have been a complete waste of time - as he would never have been able to integrate it into his swimming. Once in a swedish championship, when he was winning with 20m he actually tried to switch to a 6beat kick for fun the last 25m.. and every one had a great time laughing at him.. and so I think he did as well! It does matter what your style is... I believe that if you are used to the 6beat kick THEN working on your kick will probably be beneficial.. but again.. we are all different.. For me - my 6 beat kick is the difference between heaven and hell. When the kick drops, well.. then its only downhill...

Can't quite believe I somehow support Geochuck here + I have won many bets by kicking faster in Free than other people can swim - but this one really threw for a loop (love the last line of the blind path): TRAINING EMPHASIS ON KICKING DOES NOT IMPROVE FREE SWIMMING PERFORMANCE Konstantaki, M., & Winter, E. M. (2007). The effectiveness of a leg-kicking training program on performance and physiological measure of competitive swimmers. International Journal of Sports Science and Coaching, 2, 37-48. This study investigated the at .....] Tests like this are of course interesting to hear about, but.. a) is a test group of total 15 person representative at all of the swimming world? I would assume that a larger group would have been better b) What kind of swimmers were they? Were the even freestylers? c) What level? d) What were their "swimstyle"? Some swimmer are and will forevever be 2beat kickers.. with focus on strong stroke.. e) Did they also work on better combining their newly improved kick into normal swimming? Many questions.. I remember Anders Holmertz from Sweden. One of the best guys in 400m Free in the 80's and early 90's. He had no kick what-so-ever. Putting him on some extra kick focusing training would have been a complete waste of time - as he would never have been able to integrate it into his swimming. Once in a swedish championship, when he was winning with 20m he actually tried to switch to a 6beat kick for fun the last 25m.. and every one had a great time laughing at him.. and so I think he did as well! It does matter what your style is... I believe that if you are used to the 6beat kick THEN working on your kick will probably be beneficial.. but again.. we are all different.. For me - my 6 beat kick is the difference between heaven and hell. When the kick drops, well.. then its only downhill...