Butterfly Help/Video Analysis

Former Member
Former Member
We had a videotaping session in practice on Wed and I got some video of my butterfly. I've been trying to work on my butterfly lately but I could really use some pointers and suggestions for specific things to work on and how to work on them. Clearly the turnover is too slow. Lack of range of motion in my shoulders doesn't allow me to keep my hands at the surface while my chest is down the way that people like Phelps do. In the underwater side view it looks like my hips sink way too much and then don't quite make it back up to the surface, but I don't know what to do about that other than a quicker recovery. youtube.com/watch Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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    Thanks a lot for writing that all out Bud! It will take some time to digest but I just had to reply on this one paragraph: i think i've been interpreting the 'pressing of the chest' all wrong all this time. it is not so much a press of the chest as it is an opening of the shoulders on entry (which forces the chest cavity down). I thought exactly that first sentence myself recently! I hadn't figured out the shoulder movement as exactly but I'm thinking that something similar is what causes my stroke to work so much better when I use a wider arm entry and extend my shoulders forward as I enter? That seems to let my chest "fall" downward instead of me "pressing" it downward, and my butt also seems to rise, in the sort of "pivot" motion I've observed in good fliers. Anyway, thanks again, I'll digest further and reply more later.
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  • Former Member
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    Thanks a lot for writing that all out Bud! It will take some time to digest but I just had to reply on this one paragraph: i think i've been interpreting the 'pressing of the chest' all wrong all this time. it is not so much a press of the chest as it is an opening of the shoulders on entry (which forces the chest cavity down). I thought exactly that first sentence myself recently! I hadn't figured out the shoulder movement as exactly but I'm thinking that something similar is what causes my stroke to work so much better when I use a wider arm entry and extend my shoulders forward as I enter? That seems to let my chest "fall" downward instead of me "pressing" it downward, and my butt also seems to rise, in the sort of "pivot" motion I've observed in good fliers. Anyway, thanks again, I'll digest further and reply more later.
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