Butterfly Help/Video Analysis

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We had a videotaping session in practice on Wed and I got some video of my butterfly. I've been trying to work on my butterfly lately but I could really use some pointers and suggestions for specific things to work on and how to work on them. Clearly the turnover is too slow. Lack of range of motion in my shoulders doesn't allow me to keep my hands at the surface while my chest is down the way that people like Phelps do. In the underwater side view it looks like my hips sink way too much and then don't quite make it back up to the surface, but I don't know what to do about that other than a quicker recovery. youtube.com/watch Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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    www.youtube.com/watch. Jimmy breaks it down nicely. Thanks QuickSilver, that's a really good video, I found it a couple weeks ago and downloaded it and have watched it about a billion times. I had little brief glimpses of what a "soft entry" or laying your hands on top of the water as Jimmy says might feel like, as opposed to the tendency to sort of slam them into the water as seen on my video. Two things I have noticed in Jimmy's video and video of elite swimmers is that really good flyers hips don't actually move up and down that much, they stay pretty close to the surface all the time. And if you watch anyone with a good fly and just watch the upper body they look like a teeter-totter, rotating around an axis across their body at about the bottom of the rip cage or a little lower. The upper-upper body comes up during pull for the breath and the hips go down just a little, and then the upper body seems to just drop back under the water and the hips pop up - and the drop happens before the hands go in. You don't see that natural drop in my stroke in the video, and I think I use the big kick to "force" it down. Saturday I really felt that pivot. This video of Ian Crocker really shows the "drop" I'm talking about, although he doesn't have as pronounced a hip pop up as some people. www.youtube.com/watch
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    www.youtube.com/watch. Jimmy breaks it down nicely. Thanks QuickSilver, that's a really good video, I found it a couple weeks ago and downloaded it and have watched it about a billion times. I had little brief glimpses of what a "soft entry" or laying your hands on top of the water as Jimmy says might feel like, as opposed to the tendency to sort of slam them into the water as seen on my video. Two things I have noticed in Jimmy's video and video of elite swimmers is that really good flyers hips don't actually move up and down that much, they stay pretty close to the surface all the time. And if you watch anyone with a good fly and just watch the upper body they look like a teeter-totter, rotating around an axis across their body at about the bottom of the rip cage or a little lower. The upper-upper body comes up during pull for the breath and the hips go down just a little, and then the upper body seems to just drop back under the water and the hips pop up - and the drop happens before the hands go in. You don't see that natural drop in my stroke in the video, and I think I use the big kick to "force" it down. Saturday I really felt that pivot. This video of Ian Crocker really shows the "drop" I'm talking about, although he doesn't have as pronounced a hip pop up as some people. www.youtube.com/watch
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