Hypoxic Advice/Workouts--Not Your opinion of Hypox Efficacy
Former Member
Discusing Hypoxic sets with a freind, can anyone suggest a good hypoxic set for me.
I'm doing 3500-4000 3x a week and a short sprint workout on the weekend. I will not likely add another day to my schedule.
What's a good starting workout, and also where in my workout should I do this? Do you mix it up e.g. hard interval set then a hypox or hypox and then a pace set.
I am guessing mixing is a good thing but what's a good start point for a set and intervals for this? BR and FR being my stronger strokes.
Former Member
Maybe I should rename the thread "Hypoxic Sets to help learn control of one's diaphragm? No not the contraceptive type...
I enjoyed the posts: scientific, old wive's tales, conjecture; pro and anti.
I agree practicing 200's is a good way to practice that last 2 or 3 turns and the feeling.
I also beleive that trainin win hypox sets will help the body adapt...even if purely on psycho' and perhaps muscular control levels.
I can't say whetehr I will get faster because of it but I think it will help my times.
Why do athletes train at altitude for sports events in places like Mexico city if it doesn't at least prepare them for a change?
Maybe it's all placebo but like anything else on this forum whther it's TI, Kick Sets, Drag Suits, Nose Clips, Snorkels, Visualisation or Mantras if you do not believe it will work or help then it probably won't. As you won't apply yourself to training efficiently and then the results will reiforce your belief that a certain technique is bunk. 90% mental right?
I am starting to think that the best way to swim faster races in meets is to swim fast races in practice. Less 10 x 100 on whatever and more full effort swims with more rest in between. This will get you both anaerobic training as well as some aerobic training. It will also give you the sensation of swimming at speed, turning at speed, streamlining, etc.. What better way to train your body and mind for a race than to race.
I am starting to think that the best way to swim faster races in meets is to swim fast races in practice. Less 10 x 100 on whatever and more full effort swims with more rest in between. This will get you both anaerobic training as well as some aerobic training. It will also give you the sensation of swimming at speed, turning at speed, streamlining, etc.. What better way to train your body and mind for a race than to race.
Oh give it a rest already...lol
I apologize in advance for my thick skull, but it's not obvious to me (who's never used a snorkel except when, well, snorkeling) how training with a snorkel would be in any way equivalent to hypoxic work (breathing less frequently, more SDKs off the wall, etc). I've always thought of a snorkel as a stroke training device. You don't need to breath side-to-side, so you can work on a nice symmetrical stroke.
Thx,
Skip Montanaro
Yes it does help in balancing out your stroke...but if you don't beleive that restricting your air intake (even more by the addtional valve you can use) during extremally hard workouts is hypoxic I can't help you. In my opinion it has far more relevance than swimming a "breathe every 3, 5, 7, 9" set which to me is absolutley worthless.
Yes it does help in balancing out your stroke...but if you don't beleive that restricting your air intake (even more by the addtional valve you can use) during extremally hard workouts is hypoxic I can't help you. In my opinion it has far more relevance than swimming a "breathe every 3, 5, 7, 9" set which to me is absolutley worthless.
Like I said, I've never used a snorkel except when snorkeling (or scuba diving). I've never even examined the Finis type snorkel. I wasn't aware that they provided any restriction at all. I was just asking.
Skip
Like I said, I've never used a snorkel except when snorkeling (or scuba diving). I've never even examined the Finis type snorkel. I wasn't aware that they provided any restriction at all. I was just asking.
Skip
Sorry....didn't mean to sound "snappy"....ask away!
Like I said, although its primary function is served for technique and drill work-check this out:
findarticles.com/.../ai_n8973274
However I also have seen (and done) hard/sprint/kick training done with a snorkel and the addtional effort needed to pull in air is incredible....