If you search for results using the USMS Meet Result tracking, the results page for this service after searching has a notice where the USMS logo used to be:
"By mutual agreement with USMS
This service will terminate on December 31, 2007"
(attached below)
While it's certainly a clunky results interface (depending on how you search using it, certain results will be present in certain searches, and not in others), I would think it would be better than nothing. Does anyone know if there is a replacement in the works?
Patrick King
Yeah, I had a similiar argument with Chris (CRG) with USAS results. I got shut down with no notice due to arguments between him and with the vendor we had worked through (vendor did not pay him). We worked for 6 months and never could get the vendor's replacement to work due to our massive size (the vendor's product was designed for a team with 200 athletes, not a state with 35,000 athletes). I put in a homebrew replacement and then we went through some arguments with the vendor for similar "look and feel" in our homebrew. While the lawyers were mentioned, happily it didn't go that far.
We eventually abandoned our homebrew to use the USA Swimming "SWIMS" database and I was removed from maintaining the website shortly afterwards; I agreed not to release the code to any other organizations. It was not geared to USMS performances that well anyhow. There is probably other stuff going on that I wasn't clued in on.
Mel, thanks for the tidbit. :)
First off, this was NOT “By mutual agreement with USMS”. The decision to terminate the arrangement was a unilateral decision by CRGWebServices. USMS was ready and willing to continue, until an in-house solution could be developed.
Yes, there will be a replacement build. I don’t think there is a timetable for the completion of the replacement.
Thanks to CRG's assistance in our transition, I have a copy of all the data that is currently in the CRG database and yes, it will all be imported into the USMS database so we will not lose anything.
Um, yes, well I stand (or rather sit) misinformed...
You won't get any chocolate from me - I need all of it for recovery.
Sweet. I mentioned months earlier that there were issues with the antiquated database. :soapbox: Glad that others agreed.
Screw the database. These emoticons are the bomb. Now this is why I swim masters. :weightlifter:
...Yes, there will be a replacement build. I don’t think there is a timetable for the completion of the replacement.
when the replacement is built, will the currently available results be imported over, or will we lose everything that is in the database currently???
Dang, that stinks. I check times in the database all the time. I sure hope an effort is made to backup the database so it can be resurrected when the in-house solution comes online.
when the replacement is built, will the currently available results be imported over, or will we lose everything that is in the database currently???
We will certainly lose some of the historical results. When I was the Current Top Times administrator early on (2002-2003) not all the meet results were archived and CRG Web Services destroys the original files shortly after merging them into the database. A lot of those will be gone but some could possibly be retrieved from local archives (meet directors, Top Ten Chairs, the better local web sites such as North Texas that preserve and post those files). However, this would be a pretty tedious process and may not have very high priority.
For more recent data (2003-2005) I was better prepared and did the archiving. I have passed along those more recent meet files to the current database administrator, Jeanne Seidler, and we should be in pretty good shape from that point onward.
