Hypothesis on specialized training models

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Hypothesis on specialized training models *Warning* this may bore some members, please privately message me to find the solution for you. With 18 swimming events, fulfilling the maximum potential in each discipline requires specific training models. Also, with the variety of body types, the training program needs to vary from person to person. For example, Dara Torres might not have the same level of success in a program designed for Michael Phelps, and vice versa. So, in order to maximize either side of the spectrum, a multi-faceted approach is required. The point is, one program works very well for a particular type of person, and not so good for another. So which program is better? Neither, that answer depends on the athlete in question. So you see, a coach can have success with either program, and the athlete with a predisposition for that type of training will rise to the top. I need to dispel any myths that one program is better than another. This only makes arguable sense when talking about a particular athlete. So please, the traditional methods do have merit when training particular athletes. Although, the Nystrand versus Popov debate is another example for the need towards flexible technique analysis. Ultimately, it comes down to the specific strength and weaknesses of each particular athlete. The point is, the depth of potential may be a higher number than we previously assumed, and that my friends, is an opportunity. Happy Swimming, Jonathan R. Miller:wave:
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    Not boring, I kind of like my swimming high brow in small doses. (Although I do not keep up with current research in exercise physiology and all that, so my thinking is probably oh so 1980's). If I'm reading your hypothesis correctly, you are simply stating that there are a lot of variables in training and that there are many paths to success. Am I understanding you correctly? I don't know many who would disagree but I still think there are some universal truths in training that apply broadly. Otherwise where does that leave us? All training must be completley individualized to a particular person and event? Not always very practical, though it can certainly be done to some degree; sprinters have been wimping out of -- excuse me, "pesonalizing" -- workouts for decades, after all. Still, there are going to be incompatibilities, such as the 20K/day vs the quality/technique schools of thoughts. Or disagreements on the importance of kicking. Your thoughts? Haha... First, let me say it is an honor to have discussions with my hero... A WR is a WR is a WR... Well Done Chris Stevenson... Although, you could have given us an arm-pump, or even a smile, or something like that on the video... ;-) How about a WAAHHHOOO!!!! just a thought... Anyways... You're right, for age-group programs there are universal "truths" about training that can "whip" aspiring athletes into quasi-respectable swimmers... Although, as we age, specialized programs may be more suitable, and we can probably even afford a personalized program/trainer. The thing is, we all have different weaknesses and strengths... We can become reasonably "fast" with a standard program, but if you want to pass that level you must target your personal weaknesses specifically. The debate about kicking is silly really, almost willy nilly, because we all know the show don't flow without kicking mo-jo... The question is, how does the vast majority reach that same level of proficiency in their under-water kick? It simply won't happen if you don't have the appropriate range of motion in your ankles... See this link, forums.usms.org/showpost.php Happy swimming,
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    Not boring, I kind of like my swimming high brow in small doses. (Although I do not keep up with current research in exercise physiology and all that, so my thinking is probably oh so 1980's). If I'm reading your hypothesis correctly, you are simply stating that there are a lot of variables in training and that there are many paths to success. Am I understanding you correctly? I don't know many who would disagree but I still think there are some universal truths in training that apply broadly. Otherwise where does that leave us? All training must be completley individualized to a particular person and event? Not always very practical, though it can certainly be done to some degree; sprinters have been wimping out of -- excuse me, "pesonalizing" -- workouts for decades, after all. Still, there are going to be incompatibilities, such as the 20K/day vs the quality/technique schools of thoughts. Or disagreements on the importance of kicking. Your thoughts? Haha... First, let me say it is an honor to have discussions with my hero... A WR is a WR is a WR... Well Done Chris Stevenson... Although, you could have given us an arm-pump, or even a smile, or something like that on the video... ;-) How about a WAAHHHOOO!!!! just a thought... Anyways... You're right, for age-group programs there are universal "truths" about training that can "whip" aspiring athletes into quasi-respectable swimmers... Although, as we age, specialized programs may be more suitable, and we can probably even afford a personalized program/trainer. The thing is, we all have different weaknesses and strengths... We can become reasonably "fast" with a standard program, but if you want to pass that level you must target your personal weaknesses specifically. The debate about kicking is silly really, almost willy nilly, because we all know the show don't flow without kicking mo-jo... The question is, how does the vast majority reach that same level of proficiency in their under-water kick? It simply won't happen if you don't have the appropriate range of motion in your ankles... See this link, forums.usms.org/showpost.php Happy swimming,
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