Dara just one the national title in the 100M Freestyle in 54.4 at the ripe old age of 40. Simply Incredible. :applaud: :woot:
If that's not inspiring I don't know what is.
Torres fans skeptical, but want to believe
By the Associated Press
Posted Sunday, August 3, 2008 9:08 AM ET
So you hear about a 41-year-old swimmer making the Olympics eight years after retiring and two years after giving birth.
You immediately think:
A. What an inspiring story!
B. It's got to be performance-enhancing drugs.
That's what it's like to be a sports fan in 2008, torn between awe and mistrust.
"Any time an athlete does something extraordinary anymore, it's, 'How can that be?''' said Daniel Wann, a Murray State psychology professor. "Because it's happened so many times. The heroes keep crumbling under the weight of scandals.''
Dara Torres, who set American records and qualified for her fifth Olympics in two individual events at the U.S. trials, is the latest athlete to attract both amazement and suspicion by accomplishing the seemingly impossible.
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"I have the perception that you want to believe and you should give someone the benefit of the doubt,'' Torres said. "But, unfortunately, other athletes in the past have ruined that for a lot of people.''
The Beijing Olympics will measure how fans burned by doping scandal after doping scandal will react to such a tale. Will 40-something moms crowd around the TV to cheer on Torres?
Or will most people shrug, unwilling to believe? They may decide they can't take another disillusioning revelation, after putting their faith in Mark McGwire or Floyd Landis, in Roger Clemens or Marion Jones.
"It's interesting to me how effective sports fans are at being in denial,'' said Daniel Mahony, a dean at Kent State who has done sports management research into fan behavior.
But, he added, "Now it's become harder and harder for people to do that.''
Mahony joked that as a New York Giants fan, he knows with absolute certainty that all their players were clean when they won the Super Bowl this year. He's not alone in his faith. Fans might be cynical toward athletes in general, but they make exceptions for their own team - or for an inspiring tale.
"We all are a forgiving nation, too,'' said Edward Raymond Hirt, a psychology professor at Indiana University. "We like those comeback stories. We like people overcoming odds.''
Daniel Cox has seen how even non-swimmers can relate to Torres' story. Knowing that he's the president of O*H*I*O Masters, a Cleveland-area swim club for adults, friends kept calling to ask, "How can someone that old do that?''
"Everybody in Masters that I've talked to is just ecstatic,'' said the 47-year-old Cox, who also serves on committees for United States Masters Swimming, the national governing body. "It's just phenomenal what she's done for a lot of us being older athletes. It shows we've still got it, baby.''
Whether in sports or other fields, research shows that people are supportive or suspicious depending on how appealing they find somebody.
"With any kind of scandal or allegation, if you like the person, you think it's so unfair to jump on them or make an assumption,'' Hirt said.
Smiling on the medals stand with her 2-year-old daughter in her arms at the Olympic trials, Torres projected a bright persona nobody would confuse with the brooding Barry Bonds.
It helps that swimming has not been besieged by major doping scandals recently like track and baseball, although American Jessica Hardy withdrew from the U.S. swim team after failing a drug test. Nor has Torres' name popped up in grand jury testimony or federal investigations, as have Bonds and others.
Torres even volunteered to take part in a stringent pilot drug-testing program administered by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.
"That's crucial public relations on her part,'' said Bob Thompson, a professor of popular culture at Syracuse.
Hearing about the drug-testing program certainly eased Cox's mind. Even he couldn't help but wonder about doping before he learned that Torres had volunteered for it.
"That was something in the back of my mind, that, 'Wow, she's really at that level, at that age?''' Cox said.
Jones frequently was mentioned as the athlete who might have destroyed people's faith once and for all. To many, she seemed so convincing - a charismatic star who vehemently denied doping. Now Jones is an admitted drug cheat, in prison for lying to federal authorities.
"I've had doubts in general about a few athletes,'' Torres said. But with Jones, "I had no idea.''
For people to persuade themselves to believe in an athlete, a certain level of passion is required.
Robert Cialdini, an Arizona State psychology professor, has studied how fans promote their connection to their favorite team when it's winning. But if they fear association with an athlete will end in disgrace, he said, their loyalty might not take root.
Need an example of doubt dulling interest? Look no further than Torres' feelings toward Bonds' pursuit of the career home run record last year.
"I didn't follow it at all,'' she said. "There was too much evidence there. There was too much pointing to him, and so I became disinterested.
"I'm a Yankee fan, anyway.''
Still, proving that fans are cynical is far easier than proving it has influenced their viewing habits.
"All that having been said,'' Thompson noted, "there seems to be a willingness to say, 'OK, I've got suspicions this may be happening, but now let's play the game and see who wins.'''
So rewarding to read assumptions and accusations. I looked at the article read the first paragraph, I won't waste my time reading the whole story. Too long winded. No substance.
Thanks for sharing your opinion George. The article actually had plenty of substance! And it was an enjoyable read.
So rewarding to read assumptions and accusations. I looked at the article read the first paragraph, I won't waste my time reading the whole story. Too long winded. No substance.
OK, there may be an athlete in these Olympics whose story is even more incredible than Dara's.
Oksana Chusovitina - a 32-year-old GYMNAST competing for Germany. This is her fifth Olympic Games - she previously competed for the Soviet Union in 1992 and for Uzbekistan in 1996, 2000, and 2004. Her specialty is the vault.
Chusovitina is the mother of an 8-year old son. She moved to Germany to seek treatment for his leukemia, which is now in remission.
Article:
en.wikipedia.org/.../Oksana_Chusovitina
Australia is putting all their gold medal winners on postage stamps. I wish USPS could find a way to get around no-living-people, maybe sell it as a special edition, add extra fees for fancy packaging.
Aha! One can make one's own postage stamps, and it's perfectly legit! Sadly, all the good images of swimmers would be copyrighted.
VB
There was a 50+ cyclist from France in the road race today.
Jeanne Longo? She's the same age as me, so she's just turned 50 this year. Dang, should have stuck with the cycling! :rolleyes:
There was a bit on the CBC coverage last night about a 50 year old female fencer who won China's first gold medal ever in the 1984 games and is now a Canadian citizen competing on our team. :canada:
Australia is putting all their gold medal winners on postage stamps. I wish USPS could find a way to get around no-living-people, maybe sell it as a special edition, add extra fees for fancy packaging.
Aha! One can make one's own postage stamps, and it's perfectly legit! Sadly, all the good images of swimmers would be copyrighted.
VB
I'll sell you a few real cheap!
