Dara Torres-Amazing

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Dara just one the national title in the 100M Freestyle in 54.4 at the ripe old age of 40. Simply Incredible. :applaud: :woot: If that's not inspiring I don't know what is.
  • I only defend the falsely accussed until proven they used illegal items. That makes no sense. If you are proven to have used illegal items you have never been falsely accused. Your stance on Hardy is laughable as is your stance on Clemens.
  • When ever I brought up proven druggies everyone here said the proof was false, or the french drug reports are wrong. When I brought up drug use by some heroes that was true some here said the test by the french are wrong. I want proof not some news report where these reporters are guessing. Cover up www.cbc.ca/.../top10.html Which proven druggies did you bring up George? I get the feeling that since you mention the French, you might be referring to Lance Armstrong. Am I correct? How exactly was he proven to have cheated?
  • If the glove does not fit don't convict. And there it is, using OJ as your support. What's next, using Michael Jackson as your expert on child rearing? All credibility has been officially flushed now.
  • Proof beyond a doubt is required, If there is actaul proof I will believe. A positive A and B sample is beyond a shadow of a doubt to me. Elite athletes know the world in which they live. They know enough to report any medication they are taking. They know enough to be wary of supplements. What more proof do you need George?
  • I agree with George. What more is needed is that due process must run it's course. They have (allegedly) gathered the evidence and now she must be "tried" (have her hearings) and found guilty. Should that occur, she would be a dirty cheater and more than worthy of any contempt and legal penalties placed on her. Until then, she is innocent, albeit on very shaky ground. There have been too many screw-ups by the various drug testing agencies to condemn someone on the grounds of unofficial reports published in the media. Let's wait to be sure she's a witch before we burn her. (She does float, however. Which means she must weigh as much as a duck, which means...) -LBJ Good point. The Landis took so long to run its due course that many people weren't even aware of the final decision by the CAS. You're right in that we shouldn't punish her until the final verdict is in though.
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    Proof beyond a doubt is required, If there is actaul proof I will believe. If the glove does not fit don't convict.
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    A positive A and B sample is beyond a shadow of a doubt to me. Elite athletes know the world in which they live. They know enough to report any medication they are taking. They know enough to be wary of supplements. What more proof do you need George? I agree with George. What more is needed is that due process must run it's course. They have (allegedly) gathered the evidence and now she must be "tried" (have her hearings) and found guilty. Should that occur, she would be a dirty cheater and more than worthy of any contempt and legal penalties placed on her. Until then, she is innocent, albeit on very shaky ground. There have been too many screw-ups by the various drug testing agencies to condemn someone on the grounds of unofficial reports published in the media. Let's wait to be sure she's a witch before we burn her. (She does float, however. Which means she must weigh as much as a duck, which means...) -LBJ
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    I agree with George. What more is needed is that due process must run it's course. They have (allegedly) gathered the evidence and now she must be "tried" (have her hearings) and found guilty. Should that occur, she would be a dirty cheater and more than worthy of any contempt and legal penalties placed on her. Until then, she is innocent, albeit on very shaky ground. There have been too many screw-ups by the various drug testing agencies to condemn someone on the grounds of unofficial reports published in the media. Let's wait to be sure she's a witch before we burn her. (She does float, however. Which means she must weigh as much as a duck, which means...) -LBJ She turned me in to a Newt.........I got better.....
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    Medication can put a lot of athletes in jeopardy. It has happened to many by taking something that is not considered illegal and does not appear on a banned list but gives a false reading. Do we call them cheaters if the medication is not on the banned list or the item they take has been taken by many without giving a positive reading. I will still wait until this whole things runs the course. It may be that Hardy will still be able to compete. If she is really banned before it runs the course I feel she will have some great civil action to take to court against the medication maufacturer or even the Olympic Committee.
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    It has been covering up Drug use for years. Especially the track and field athletes.