Dara Torres-Amazing

Theoretically speaking, if an athlete is found to have used PED's to obtain a spot on an Olympic team, could the athlete who missed their shot because of the cheating sue the cheater for damages? For instance, lost revenue from advertising contracts or paid personal appearances and clinics.

Theoretically speaking, Dara Torres is a winner! Yes, but we're attempting to set aside convention and have a theoretical discussion.

No, not at all......go back and look at the info on post 1212 that I put on there....she actually has a pretty good history of doing exactly what she is doing today....it started in 1983 when she broke the WR in the 50 at age 15. So in your mind she is neither juiced nor an anomaly.

Let me get this straight. You find absolutely nothing out of the ordinary or the least bit suspicious about the whole Dara Torres story? No, not at all......go back and look at the info on post 1212 that I put on there....she actually has a pretty good history of doing exactly what she is doing today....it started in 1983 when she broke the WR in the 50 at age 15.

Equating the mistakes a few people made as being universal, that's just foolish. Ask M. Jones where her story ended, or Barry Bonds. Nothing wrong with a critical eye towards unprecedented accomplishments, especially in a day and age where almost every single super human sporting achievement of the last decade has been proven a lie. I recall last summer on this forum as holding out Roger Clemens as a pillar of responsibility and hard work at an older age for sports. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

There ain't a shred of evidence out there at all....end of story..... Let me get this straight. You find absolutely nothing out of the ordinary or the least bit suspicious about the whole Dara Torres story?

Ask M. Jones where her story ended, or Barry Bonds. Nothing wrong with a critical eye towards unprecedented accomplishments, especially in a day and age where almost every single super human sporting achievement of the last decade has been proven a lie. I recall last summer on this forum as holding out Roger Clemens as a pillar of responsibility and hard work at an older age for sports. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. So by this kind of lopsided reasoning....Phelps, Hoff, Coughlin and everybody else who breaks records (because it's a "super human sports achievement") is dirty? Wow, quite a leap off the scale there if you ask me. I would agree with all of you nay sayers if there was a person that stood up and said they saw her do something....or a test came back with suspicious levels of something....but guess what.....NOT ONE of those things has happened. Again I ask all of you ACCUSERS: What does she have to do? Nobody can or has answered that one basic question!!!!!

Like others on here have said already.....How many others have tried the regimen that she is doing? Not many from what I know......so who is to say that the Smiths, Fort, Jeff or anybody else in here could not have some surprising results using her formula. I have never ever said she is doping. I have said her achievements warrant great scrutiny, as with every single recent notable sports accomplishment. And, that has been the tenor of almost all the skeptics on this forum. That's opposed to those who put their heads in the sand and proclaim her to be their hero. What exactly makes her heroic anyway? She's an unwed mother who has spent $100K on a selfish quest, that doesn't make her heroic, focused and talented yes, but not a hero. Again, your choice of words sinks you. What exactly is "surprising?" If you are caught off-guard by her results, then you too are scratching your head. Oh yeah, it's cause she does a lot of stretching. When you continue to modify how you describe her it becomes extremely hard to follow. Is she an anomaly? Is she surprising? If she and her doctor sugar daddy are on the outs, it might be surprising to hear his comments. So many surprises to ponder.

No, the reality is she won, and conventional wisdom proves she is clean! Being a realist is not necessarily associated with being unhappy or sad or bitter! What's wrong with questioning things? Who wants to blithely or blindly accept what others say without independent analysis? No reason to put the brain in storage! And there's really not "proof positive" for virtually anything in life. Sure there is proof in life, that's the very nature of being alive.

How exactly does her personal relationship with a man relate to swimming? Aside from showing that she is perhaps more dedicated to swimming than to her BFF.