Dara just one the national title in the 100M Freestyle in 54.4 at the ripe old age of 40. Simply Incredible. :applaud: :woot:
If that's not inspiring I don't know what is.
What's really sad...and pathetic is when people respond in this manner..like Jansen and Geo as well...just because some QUESTION an otherworldly performance in sport.
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Believe what ever you want to believe...but don't twist the words of those of us who question
But at least swimmings clean...at least according to the vast majority of posters on this forum.
Paul, you should really heed the posting advice you gave me earlier in this thread. There seems to be a fundamental difference in the way you and I think. You call it, "burying my head in the sand," I prefer to call it simple optimism.
Seriously, why watch sports if every time somebody does something unheard of, I jump to the conclusion that there is something underhanded going on? There is evidence against the cyclists we have been talking about (even if it is flimsy evidence in Armstrong's case), but so far, there is zero evidence to say that Torres is cheating. If there is some, I will be glad to admit I am wrong! I have yet to see evidence that any swimmers, that we look up to, are cheating. With the exception of the recent Chinese swimmer and the East Germans back in the day, I haven't heard of a single swimmer getting busted for drugs.
My answer is let them use what they want.
The USA track and field association did their testing but always hid the results. So if you don't give out the results why test.
Paul do you think anyone really cares when you are in the search for gold.
What I am saying release the results and if they are using kick em out or don't bother testing.
It has been a fact losers complain they must be on something. They never say what a great swim or run.
Wrong George. This whole thread is about "QUESTIONING" Dara based on her performance and physical transformation.
Answer me this....do you support random, year around drug testing for all swimmers?
If you answer yes than you show suspicion, if you answer no than you support your position that all is good in the world and cheating doesn't exist and we should all shut up.
I think elite athletes in most sports should be subject to random, unannounced drug tests throughout the year. Not just at competition events but at any time. This is the only way to catch athletes that might otherwise time their use of PEDs to avoid positive tests at races.
It also puts fear into athletes that they could be tested at any time.
Consequences of a positive, proven, test should be severe. I am not convinced lifetime is appropriate on first offense - mostly because I am not 100% confident in the operations of leading testing labs. Although Floyd Landis' positive test was ultimately confirmed - his appeal showed the lab in France was run poorly. Samples were not protected at all time, etc.
For Paul - what do you think of Dara's very proactive position on testing? As a doubter - do you just believe she is just incredibly confident that her regimen is foolproof and cannot be caught by either today's or tomorrow's testing? Is she just willing to risk it - and the complete disgrace that would occur if she fails a test next year?
If her blood samples show a positive result five years from now she would be stripped of any Olympic medals and any records would be withdrawn. Just as with Marion Jones. Perhaps worse, medals won by teammates on relays would also be stripped. A positive test would probably carry a huge negative impact to her professional life - whatever it is - at the time.
My understanding was that women normally lose their sprinting ability before men. Which is one of the reasons why her performance is so surprising.
We can use the word "surprising," can we not?
While her time of 24.56 is impressive, there are many faster or equally fast times from non-Olympians in her age group and even in older age groups. If she exercised regularly during her uncomplicated pregnancy and was in amazing shape, the time is not too surprising. It looks like she then dropped over 2 seconds speedy quick.
I'd say more like 3 seconds. While a 24.5 is impressive for a 'normal' woman of her age, I'd say it's utterly unimpressive for her.
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bare mid drifts.
This made me laugh. Sort of like "Old timer's" disease instead of "Alzheimer's."
Hey; on "some" the drifts are quite pronounced.................
Beltran.....yeah he's naively confident, stupid, or maybe desperate. The EPO tests continue to advance so these riders are idiots. The positive tests usually result in a 2 year ban.
One thing that is an issue with TDF drug testing - the testing is done after a stage is completed. TDF cyclists are usually highly dehydrated and their blood chemistry is out of whack, even after re-hydrating. Their chemical markers have to be abnormal throughout the race.
They did pre-race blood testing to get a baseline and to check for abnormal results! Beltran was targeted because his pre-race blood work showed anomalies!
I am not attacking, it is just that this whole thread is about accusing Dara without proof. My suggestion about living in Philadelphia was just a stupid remark by me. I read an article about obesity in Philadelphia. The item about my wife was outright untruth. She looked good in a Bikini but she hated her scars from a C-Section so never wore a small Bikini.
Geochuck - Actually I live near some of the best professional female triathletes in the country. Professional female triathletes are the epitomy of leaness and power combined. Many of these women have actually hit their best times well up into their 30s. Triathlons, however, are primarily endurance -oriented.
Also, please note that there is a difference between toned abs and bulging ab muscles on women. I would bet your wife had the former.
Also, I have to scold you a little. You are scolding folks about making assumptions about Dara. You made the assumption that I live in Philadelphia. You couldn't be further off. I live in the land where more women have won Miss America than any other part of the country.
No need to attack just because I am skeptical of Dara.
