Dara Torres-Amazing

I gave you lots of stuff but as I said before some people cannot read. I guess if left to a few of you that everyone should get the death penalty, guilty or not. Can we even trust the testers results?? Maybe they brought in the French test team and before many of you said they were wrong when it came down to your favorite cyclists. She must have had something that gave the test results but rather then all the palavor about what she did wrong I would like to hear how it got into her system. So, you still won't validate your assertions which is exactly what you accuse others of. Who,what, when - stop dodging. What do you require as proof if not two positive blood samples? What would be your preferred standard?

Sam - Did I accuse anyone of anything. I don't think I did. I am reffering to the fact that anything can happen and it has in the past. I would have to have proof positive to accuse anyone of wrong doing, not like so many others here who accuse without proof positive. Are you implying Salo drugged her without her knowing? That is a serious charge, would love to have you state that to him face to face and see his response.

I think she is guilty as charged and should get a life time ban and jail time! Jail time? She did not commit a crime.

Have you ever heard of a coach who slips stuff into their swimmers, without the swimmers knowing about it. Or tells them that these suppliments are not illegal. I know one who did and so do all (or most) of you. He was barred from coaching in the USA. Are you implying Salo drugged her without her knowing? That is a serious charge, would love to have you state that to him face to face and see his response.

Have you ever heard of a coach who slips stuff into their swimmers, without the swimmers knowing about it. Or tells them that these suppliments are not illegal. I know one who did and so do all (or most) of you. He was barred from coaching in the USA.

Hardy tests + on BOTH the A and the B splits! With a medication that is banned in the USA. Her coach had two other swimmers who also tested + and YET, she say, "Oh no, I am innocent!" GIVE ME A SEIOUS BREAK! What the heck do we have legal, controlled testing for unless we believe in it and enforse what the results are? What? We test + and then get the attorneys involved and go to the media and whine and plead this same old BS about--"Oh no, I am innocent." Hardy is guilty and all the testing and evidence points to a young lady who made a BAD choice and decisions that got her BANNED FROM THE OLYMIC GAMES. Hey, look at the Cal Bears swimmers who were SHOCKED when she went pro without so much as ANY advanced hints to her fellow teammates---Yes, It is ok to go pro, but when your TEAM is counting on you and all of a sudden you go pro without any hint your going to do that it gives the impression of deceit. I think she is guilty as charged and should get a life time ban and jail time! Next!

...And here it is... The World Anti-Doping Code THE 2008 PROHIBITED LIST INTERNATIONAL STANDARD www.wada-ama.org/.../2008_List_En.pdf Includes these sub-categories: SUBSTANCES AND METHODS PROHIBITED AT ALL TIMES (IN- AND OUT-OF-COMPETITION) SUBSTANCES AND METHODS PROHIBITED IN-COMPETITION SUBSTANCES PROHIBITED IN PARTICULAR SPORTS

Geek is also a noted 'late bloomer' and demands special recognition for his unique feats.

Is there any proof positive there are any clean swimmers? No and there never will be. It is unprovable.

Have you ever heard of a coach who slips stuff into their swimmers Am I the only one that read that and thought of a suppository? :) ...without the swimmers knowing about it. OK, that would be tough.