Dara Torres-Amazing

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Dara just one the national title in the 100M Freestyle in 54.4 at the ripe old age of 40. Simply Incredible. :applaud: :woot: If that's not inspiring I don't know what is.
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    Rob, That's true, a substance is either legal or illegal.... no gray area. However, Ande is referring to the process of cycling on and off supplements to pass screening. While there may not be traces of the drug to trigger the test, the residual performance enhancing effects can still be quite positive. John Smith One must admit that when an athlete opens themselves up to random and frequent screening the option of cycling on and off is not really available to them anymore. So really, the only option that seems to exist is that she is using something that is not detectable..possibly due to the fact that it is unknown as you have suggested previously.
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    Rob, That's true, a substance is either legal or illegal.... no gray area. However, Ande is referring to the process of cycling on and off supplements to pass screening. While there may not be traces of the drug to trigger the test, the residual performance enhancing effects can still be quite positive. John Smith
  • "She is blessed with height - five foot ten - and 70 percent fast-twitch muscle fiber. This means she can contract her muscles more quickly than most people, even noticeably faster than the average Mission Viejo swimmer. The reports are that she can tolerate a concentration of eighteen millimoles of lactic acid in her blood, a physiologically measurable tolerance of pain that is stunningly high. In other words, she can swim very hard, pushing her muscles past the point where most people's muscles would simply collapse." From the book the Champions regarding Dara's days at Mission Viejo. Phelps is another genetic freak.
  • How about the "non" drug...drugs? Check this out......I saw it in use 2 years ago by ASU's football team and some of the studies coming out on its effects are staggering...but still....is it cheating? www.stanfordalumni.org/.../cool.html
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    Matt, I only ever said that I leaned toward the initial article's conclusions in this string. I'd love to believe the sport is as squeaky clean as others on this thread, but times have changed and until such time as testing has reasonably caught up with the cheaters, I'll continue to have questions as these based on my own experience, common sense and not faith. John Smith Fair enough.
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    Matt, I only ever said that I leaned toward the initial article's conclusions in this string. I'd love to believe the sport is as squeaky clean as others on this thread, but times have changed and until such time as testing has reasonably caught up with the cheaters, I'll continue to have questions as these based on my own experience, common sense and not faith. John Smith John, is there anything that could ever convince you that this woman is clean? It seems like regardless of what testing she submits to you will feel that there is something out there we are unaware of that can't be tested for. Whatever that something is, that's gotta be what she is taking. Am I wrong or does this summarize your feelings well enough?
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    Maybe your 20th post was funny, too. Could happen. LOL!
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    It only took 2,680 posts, but you finally cracked me up. I guess even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time. that's 2,860 ;)
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    I'm not taking it anymore - I'm gathering up my ironman watch, pull buoy, diaper shorts, bike shoes, bike pedals, heart rate monitor, wetsuit, paddles, scuba-esque goggles, dorkle and unitard and going over the the USAT discussion forum. Peace out, fruitcakes! ...and here he is in action
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    You'll need more than Yuenglings after I whomp you in the 800. :thhbbb: I'm in training :D don't burn yourself out at Nats...