Dara just one the national title in the 100M Freestyle in 54.4 at the ripe old age of 40. Simply Incredible. :applaud: :woot:
If that's not inspiring I don't know what is.
Heaven help us! You mean you have more that we haven't heard already.
Absolutely, don't you? We haven't even discussed religion or politics or abortion. :duel:
Moreover, I've only expressed one opinion on this particular thread and it was not disrespectful by any measure.
Um, and I'm far from paranoid. I'm just not a fan of either of your definitions of freedom of speech -- suppressing what you think to be nice or uneducated slathering. But people certainly have the right to do either. Suppressing freedom of thought or speech is rarely a good idea.
Yea, it is possible to have a good season outside of the SEC. Just an undefeated season in any other conference isn't as impressive.
Face it, the best overall football and swimming are in the SEC. The best overall basketball may very well be the ACC.
Old Slow University, I mean Ohio State, would certainly support the SEC being the best football conferencein the nation.
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Or did you just happen to catch our spectacular football season this year?
In that pansy conference? Is it even possible for someone outside the SEC to have a stellar football season?You may not have caught my "eek" face at the end of that sentence. Our "spectacular" season saw us take perhaps the most frightening nose-dive in DI football history. Started the season 5-0 with lots of hype (and a win over the SEC's Vols) and proceeded to suck up the season with a 7-6 record playing our Pac-10 foes. It was really ugly... Not that we aren't used to ugly football at Cal, we just haven't seen as much in the last few seasons.
Dexadrine from where we derive "Dexy's Midnight Runners," famed Northern Irish soul band...best known (and probably only known) in the US for "Come on Eileen."
It was basically the rave pill of the 60's.
The bad thing about the written word is that it is hard to convey sarcasm unless you're really creative. And I'm not so smart or creative, so my comment about mom may have been taken out of context. Any time you can insert a Dexy's Midnight Runners reference into a thread such as this, you must be creative. So I'm appointing Stud to the roll of TJ's personal sarcasm advisor!
Hah, I just feel like getting way off topic and the comment about jock itch is lingering in my head as I type. I agree with the fact that it's sad that the win-at-all-costs ways of sports today have caused people to have such a questioning attitude. Like I said earlier, I just enjoy watching elite level swimmers work their magic. I hope that Dara is the real deal and will be disappointed if she isn't, but I probably won't be too surprised!
(Quite convenient to have two alma mater: I can be a Gator during football season and a Tarheel during basketball season. That's gotta be worth a dancing banana.:banana:)
C'mon man, it's Tar Heel, good grief!
I for one have no intention of giving up my opinions or freedom of speech. This sounds very Big Brother to me. And it's inaccurate. Doubt has already been raised. Most think she's clean and her career is in hyperdrive and is in no way "sullied."Well said. I hope no one on here ever questions the actions or intentions of their doctor or dentist or boss. When will we learn that blind acceptance and obedience is far superior to questioning and testing things? :shakeshead:
Let's just be very clear on one thing: casting suspicion is not as innocuous as all the doubters would have us believe. For the ill-informed and the over zealous even a hint of suspicion is proof of guilt. The fact that suspicion has been raised can sully an otherwise outstanding carreer. Doubt has a habit of overshadowing excellent achievements. This can be very harmful and damaging. Therefore, we should be very careful about what we say. And I don't mean trying to avoid law suits either. I don't think anyone has made libellous or slanderous remarks here. I just mean we should choose our language carefully and responsibly. Even the stating of opinions can have consequences. Opinions are not harmless. :soapbox:
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I for one have no intention of giving up my opinions. This sounds very Big Brother to me. And it's inaccurate. Doubt has already been raised. Most think she's clean and her career is in hyperdrive and is in no way "sullied."
What happened to freedom of speech and the value of a good debate? Very un-Socratic of you.
You see, Paul, adding that "cool-aid" remark in there implies that anyone that disagrees with your opinion here is a non-thinking lunatic who blindly follows what others say about Dara. It could just as easily be characterized that your contrary opinion is the "cool-aid" drinking opinion, blindly following the naysayers about Dara without looking at what she has really done. I don't think that either side here is that extreme. I think that the people here have all looked at Dara's achievements and her reported workout regime, etc. and formed reasonable opinions. They are, however opposing opinions.
I will not try to convince you or others, but my opinion is that Dara is and always has been clean. This opinion has been formed based on the following facts, plus some others that I'm probably forgetting as I type. It isn't like she sat around watching TV and smoking cigarettes in her "off" years from swimming. She has remained incredibly fit throughout the years with her tai bo stint and everything else. When she came back, she learned a new more efficient freestyle stroke and has taken up a new workout regime that is different than anyone else's. Her stroke efficiency was significantly better than anyone else in the pool at nationals last year. THAT is the real difference with Dara, and drugs don't give you that. I noticed the same thing with Kara Lynn Joyce's stroke at the Mizzou meet last week, so maybe her competition is starting to pick up on this. She is also concentrating on very short races, which is more plausible for her limited swimming workouts. Seeing her on the deck at Mizzou, her musculature was not out of proportion vs. any of the other women in the faster heats. I just don't see anything that points decisively to drug use.
Jim I was VERY careful and specific in what I posted...I did not use the cool aid analogy in reference to believing what I or anyone else believes but rather to those who refuse to question things in life that in general should be questioned...that includes drug use in sports, politics, religion, etc. etc.....everything.
People who blindly accept things at face value AND then criticize/threaten or otherwise tell those who don't are in my opinion cool aid drinkers....In this conversation there have been some great posts bringing up why/why not regarding whether there is something going on here...than there are those attack.
You have an opinion, you expressed it and thats great. I accept that she has passed testing and is clean until proven otherwise and think that what she has achieved is groundbreaking in all sports...I still have some nagging doubts based on a number of things...most of which have been brought up on this forum but for now we go forward.
But in your case I KNOW you drink cool aid so back off!! :banana:
