Breaststroke Technique Question--What to do with the Hands

Hi all, I'm new back into swimming after taking the last 14 or so years "off". When I was last swimming, the wave style breaststroke was really just coming into its own and I never fully got it down. I'm trying to train it now but I have a question--are people still pulling their hands out of the water with each stroke? These seems like a terrible waste of effort if you're just going to push back down into a streamline... Thanks for your thoughts! Keith
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    I love my breaststroke fins! It is not my strongest stroke, so I got them hoping to improve my kick. They really force you to kick correctly. I lent them to some of the BS kids on the team and they called them "turbo jets". One thing to note: They are no good for anything else. They make the feet really light, and the design is such that trying to dolphin kick (even during the pull-down) or flutter kick is totally useless. I tried them during an IM set and had to pull them off, it was just :notworking:.
  • Imspoiled, have you found that *** fins have improved your kick a lot? Or is it more of a regular fins effect, where you feel super fast with them on, and then once you take them off you've lost all your feel for the water and feel like you are going backwards? I do not feel like I have lost "all feel for the water" when I take my fins off. :dedhorse: Can't you physically and mentally factor in how you feel with and without fins? Despite a seemingly super-prevalent anti-fin bias, fins have some uses. They don't need to be eliminated as a training tool or shoulder aid. :dedhorse: I have to say, lately, with all the anti-fin rants, I'm starting to enjoy beating people who never use fins.
  • I love my breaststroke fins! It is not my strongest stroke, so I got them hoping to improve my kick. They really force you to kick correctly. I lent them to some of the BS kids on the team and they called them "turbo jets". Dana: If you call it BS, it makes it hard for us anti-evilstrokers to disagree that's it BS! I tried out Mini-Fort's little BR fins today. I liked them too! I actually did an entire set of 10 x 50 BR -- a minor miracle for me. I think it helped my kick. It forced me to narrow the kick substantially and helped me concentrate on the forward lunge. I still need the BR clinic though. BTW, on the BS thing, one of Mini-Fort's friends, a buddy in NY she sees at all the zones meets, qualified for the Olympic Trials last weekend in the 200 BR. She's freakin' 12. Went a 2:34 in the 200 meter BR. Holy shi-it.
  • First off, yay for Mini-Imspoiled for her BR victory! My 12 year old won the 50 BR this weekend too! And the 100 IM -- she can officially really kick my butt in that event now. Where did our daughters get the BR genes?! Congrats to your your Minis, Dana and Leslie. Since we seem to be bragging up our kids, my 14 yo son won the 200 fly and 400IM at the Snake River LC Summer Champs last weekend.
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    Congrats to your son Floyd! Those are some tough races. :applaud::applaud:
  • Qualifying for OT at 12 is remarkable. Didn't Amanda Beard swim in her first at 14? Cowsvils: Yes, I do feel like the BrS (better Fort?) fins have helped my kick. No, I do not loose my feel for the water without them. I use the fins mainly for kick sets. Due to the way the fins work my kick, I found that my timing gets thrown off if I try to use them for swim sets. Fort: At the risk of firing up the breaststrokers out there, "BS" is how I feel about it. The abbreviation seems appropriate. I'll never describe myself as a breaststroker (you'll understand why at zones), but in an effort to be a well rounded swimmer, I make an attempt at it from time-to-time. Kick sets are also good for the inner thigh muscles. Now for the mommy brag-- My daughter (14) won the 50 *** by more than 1 second at the summer league "A" championships over the weekend!:woot: First off, yay for Mini-Imspoiled for her BR victory! My 12 year old won the 50 BR this weekend too! And the 100 IM -- she can officially really kick my butt in that event now. Where did our daughters get the BR genes?! I'll try the BR fins on kick sets too. Did some regular BR with them. I didn't think almost anything helped the inner thighs. Worth it just for that! The 12 year's name is Annie Zhu. She's phenomenal to watch. Beautiful strokes. But she's almost 6 feet tall at age 12. Here's the link to the SW news article www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/.../15226.asp.
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    Qualifying for OT at 12 is remarkable. Didn't Amanda Beard swim in her first at 14? Cowsvils: Yes, I do feel like the BrS (better Fort?) fins have helped my kick. No, I do not loose my feel for the water without them. I use the fins mainly for kick sets. Due to the way the fins work my kick, I found that my timing gets thrown off if I try to use them for swim sets. Fort: At the risk of firing up the breaststrokers out there, "BS" is how I feel about it. The abbreviation seems appropriate. I'll never describe myself as a breaststroker (you'll understand why at zones), but in an effort to be a well rounded swimmer, I make an attempt at it from time-to-time. Kick sets are also good for the inner thigh muscles. Now for the mommy brag-- My daughter (14) won the 50 *** by more than 1 second at the summer league "A" championships over the weekend!:woot:
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    Fort, Spoiled...don't make me come into this thread and start whapping... BR, Breaststroke, Realstroke, Divinestroke. Same thing...just not BS.
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    Where did our daughters get the BR genes?! *tries to look innocent* Hahaha :thhbbb:
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    Fort, Spoiled...don't make me come into this thread and start whapping... BR, Breaststroke, Realstroke, Divinestroke. Same thing...just not BS. Divinestroke???? Now that's BS! :mooning: