The FINA rules say no but not considering the rulebook, should Libby Lenton's 52.99 go in the record books. There has been alot of debate on this in the other thread. What do you think?
Can anyone point to the rule that says this swim isn't valid?SW 12.1 and SW 12.8
According to my understanding of FINA’s interpretation in this instance, the 4 x 100 mixed medley relay is not a valid event for world records, therefore times achieved in this event, including lead-off splits are not counted towards world records. I would assume that the same ruling would hold true for a lead off 50 back in a 4 X 50 medley relay or a 50 free in the 4 X 50 free relay, since the 4 X 50 is not a world record event.
And because the rules do not explicitly allow or deny lead-off splits for ‘nonconforming events” it is customary for the governing body to interpret to rules.
But back to the question, Should 52.99 count as a world record? If the organization that “owns” world records and the rules that govern then says no , then no it shouldn’t count. Did she swim faster then the existing record, absolutely. She knows she did it, we know she did it, what difference does a piece of paper make? Except for the $20,000 bonus for breaking a world record (which I heard she was awarded).
Dorothy the meet was sanctioned apparently. If it was not everyone who competed should be banned from swimming if FINA held to rules.George, I assume the event was sanctioned, however to clear up what appears to be a misconception, FINA does not as a rule ban swimmers who compete in non-sanctioned events. In the USA a majority of USA Swimming and USMS members who compete in events have at one time or another participated in a non-sanctioned event (YMCA, Rec, Senior Games, AAU, …) and to my knowledge none have been baned for their participation. It may be different in Canada.
Can anyone point to the rule that says this swim isn't valid?SW 12.1 and SW 12.8
According to my understanding of FINA’s interpretation in this instance, the 4 x 100 mixed medley relay is not a valid event for world records, therefore times achieved in this event, including lead-off splits are not counted towards world records. I would assume that the same ruling would hold true for a lead off 50 back in a 4 X 50 medley relay or a 50 free in the 4 X 50 free relay, since the 4 X 50 is not a world record event.
And because the rules do not explicitly allow or deny lead-off splits for ‘nonconforming events” it is customary for the governing body to interpret to rules.
But back to the question, Should 52.99 count as a world record? If the organization that “owns” world records and the rules that govern then says no , then no it shouldn’t count. Did she swim faster then the existing record, absolutely. She knows she did it, we know she did it, what difference does a piece of paper make? Except for the $20,000 bonus for breaking a world record (which I heard she was awarded).
Dorothy the meet was sanctioned apparently. If it was not everyone who competed should be banned from swimming if FINA held to rules.George, I assume the event was sanctioned, however to clear up what appears to be a misconception, FINA does not as a rule ban swimmers who compete in non-sanctioned events. In the USA a majority of USA Swimming and USMS members who compete in events have at one time or another participated in a non-sanctioned event (YMCA, Rec, Senior Games, AAU, …) and to my knowledge none have been baned for their participation. It may be different in Canada.