Libby Lenton's 52.99

Originally Posted by dorothyrde forums.usms.org/.../viewpost.gif I am a little confused about the talk that the record did not count because of drafting. The report says the record did not account because the mixed relay was not an approved fINA event. Here's a summary: 1. BEFORE the ruling many speculated it wouldn't count due to Lenton swimming with Phelps in the next lane over (i.e., she got a benefit from drafting). 2. The actual statement by FINA did not mention drafting. It simply stated that the record wouldn't count due to GR 9.6.1.2 which simply states which event are contested at FINA World Championship event. 3. SW 12.1 lists the events for which world records are recognized. The 4x100 meter mixed free relay is not one of them. However, the 100 meter freestyle (obviously) is. You are both correct, of course. I believe that everyone -disappointed though they may have been at the official non-recognition (due to the existing rules)- was ready to accept the decision (based solely on the recognition of events) but happy for L.L. Then the talk started about drafting and unfair advantage. This is what started the back and forth discussions :argue: because, as many believe, it was not a valid (i.e., invalid, argumentative, irrelevant, speculative and ... Fort, where the Fort art thou' when we need your vocabulary?... argument (in this as in any other case where swimmers -US or not- had extremely good finishes and won in the last few meters without accusations of unfair advantages). H@ck! There recently was a race where Phelps won by less than 0.03 (I'll check the tapes later) just as the commentators were almost declaring him second, but the "always truthful" clock said that Phelps, somehow, found that extra millimiter in his flexible body to out-touch (Crocker? Lochte? Peirsol?). Methinks, we should have started a motion to have FINA have a (new and retroactive) rule that would bend some rules where such a feat would be recognized because, everything that Libby did was correct. (Maybe if only as a Wedding present?) :smooch:

Originally Posted by dorothyrde forums.usms.org/.../viewpost.gif I am a little confused about the talk that the record did not count because of drafting. The report says the record did not account because the mixed relay was not an approved fINA event. Here's a summary: 1. BEFORE the ruling many speculated it wouldn't count due to Lenton swimming with Phelps in the next lane over (i.e., she got a benefit from drafting). 2. The actual statement by FINA did not mention drafting. It simply stated that the record wouldn't count due to GR 9.6.1.2 which simply states which event are contested at FINA World Championship event. 3. SW 12.1 lists the events for which world records are recognized. The 4x100 meter mixed free relay is not one of them. However, the 100 meter freestyle (obviously) is. You are both correct, of course. I believe that everyone -disappointed though they may have been at the official non-recognition (due to the existing rules)- was ready to accept the decision (based solely on the recognition of events) but happy for L.L. Then the talk started about drafting and unfair advantage. This is what started the back and forth discussions :argue: because, as many believe, it was not a valid (i.e., invalid, argumentative, irrelevant, speculative and ... Fort, where the Fort art thou' when we need your vocabulary?... argument (in this as in any other case where swimmers -US or not- had extremely good finishes and won in the last few meters without accusations of unfair advantages). H@ck! There recently was a race where Phelps won by less than 0.03 (I'll check the tapes later) just as the commentators were almost declaring him second, but the "always truthful" clock said that Phelps, somehow, found that extra millimiter in his flexible body to out-touch (Crocker? Lochte? Peirsol?). Methinks, we should have started a motion to have FINA have a (new and retroactive) rule that would bend some rules where such a feat would be recognized because, everything that Libby did was correct. (Maybe if only as a Wedding present?) :smooch: