The kiss of death......84 degrees.

My team also practices in less than ideal conditions. Pool is usually 83+ degrees. It is an aquatic/fitness facility that also has a PT business. PT is busy and there is a "therapy" pool as well as a large hot tub. The therapy pool is VERY warm, but suited to its purpose. To me this says that they understand that a lap pool & therapy pool cannot be joined; however, they keep the lap pool too warm saying that the PT people use the deep lands for water walking and the water aerobics people alsways complain that the pool is too cold at 83! Lap swimmers also complain regularly. I think the real problem is that lap swimming, noodling, water aerobics, etc is NOT competitive swimming. (Ok, duh, but give me a minute.) Aside from those of us who actually work out to keep in competitve swimming shape, most people who use the pool are not moving enough to be "warm" in the water. They are not doing intervals, no sprints, no serious yardage is logged. They are simply swimming, which is fine. The managers of these facilities also have no idea what stresses a real swim workout (read competitive swim workout) puts of the body. If they actually swim at all (other than leisure swimming) it is not at the level that we forumites practice. If said managers were to get in to our workouts and try to keep up, my guess is most would not make it past the warm-up. They would be fatigued from general lack of ability/endurance and would never feel the fatigue that swimming in hot water brings about. They are there to keep members happy, and sadly, the majority of members at the community pool are not swimmers like us. Save building an aqautics facility that caters specifically to the "serious" swimmer--teams, triathelets, water polo, etc.--we masters suffer at the whims of the noodler. Dana (BTW, when I win the Power Ball, I am building said facility where the water temp will always be perfect for practice & the chemicals always in perfect proportion. Lap swimmers may use the facility, but sign will be posted prohibiting complaits about cool water or being splashed by the person doing butterfly in the next lane. There will also always be one dedicated sprint lane available for Masters wanting to practice starts.)

My team also practices in less than ideal conditions. Pool is usually 83+ degrees. It is an aquatic/fitness facility that also has a PT business. PT is busy and there is a "therapy" pool as well as a large hot tub. The therapy pool is VERY warm, but suited to its purpose. To me this says that they understand that a lap pool & therapy pool cannot be joined; however, they keep the lap pool too warm saying that the PT people use the deep lands for water walking and the water aerobics people alsways complain that the pool is too cold at 83! Lap swimmers also complain regularly. I think the real problem is that lap swimming, noodling, water aerobics, etc is NOT competitive swimming. (Ok, duh, but give me a minute.) Aside from those of us who actually work out to keep in competitve swimming shape, most people who use the pool are not moving enough to be "warm" in the water. They are not doing intervals, no sprints, no serious yardage is logged. They are simply swimming, which is fine. The managers of these facilities also have no idea what stresses a real swim workout (read competitive swim workout) puts of the body. If they actually swim at all (other than leisure swimming) it is not at the level that we forumites practice. If said managers were to get in to our workouts and try to keep up, my guess is most would not make it past the warm-up. They would be fatigued from general lack of ability/endurance and would never feel the fatigue that swimming in hot water brings about. They are there to keep members happy, and sadly, the majority of members at the community pool are not swimmers like us. Save building an aqautics facility that caters specifically to the "serious" swimmer--teams, triathelets, water polo, etc.--we masters suffer at the whims of the noodler. Dana (BTW, when I win the Power Ball, I am building said facility where the water temp will always be perfect for practice & the chemicals always in perfect proportion. Lap swimmers may use the facility, but sign will be posted prohibiting complaits about cool water or being splashed by the person doing butterfly in the next lane. There will also always be one dedicated sprint lane available for Masters wanting to practice starts.)