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    That was not the point I was trying to make. My point is that if the guy made a mistake, and he admits to it, punishment is appropriate. However, "expunging" him from the sport doesn't make any more sense than what he did to the records. (In fact it sounds kinda similar.) He still has some great qualities as a coach and mentor, or all these former swimmers and collegues wouldn't be stepping up in his defense. I fail to see any similarity at all actually. The way I see it, the coach being fired would be fair and just punishment for what he did. Do you actually think that what the coach did to these swimmers was fair and just? The coach does not, he openly admits that it was wrong. Did they, the swimmers, somehow deserve to have their records expunged? Unless they were found to be cheating then I don't see any fairness in it at all. As a matter of fact, I think Michael McLean did the right thing by selecting the internship over the summer training. Remember, college is about preparing yourself for life and I think a summer internship is bound to do him more good in the future than swim training in the off season. No? As far as people stepping up to defend him, that means nothing to me whatsoever. Shoot, you can still find people to this day who will tell you that Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Timothy McVeigh, etc...had quality attributes that should not be forgotten. The facts are the facts regardless of what these alumni have stated. I am not saying that this guy is a bad man but I am saying that he has acted in such a way as to lose his privilege to coach outstading young athletes at an outstading school. Almost forgot, I am not saying that he should be expunged from swimming (I am not sure how Stanford could really achieve that without a felonious act anyhow). After he is fired from Stanford there should be no limit on where he can go. Any team willing to hire him should feel free to do so.
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    That was not the point I was trying to make. My point is that if the guy made a mistake, and he admits to it, punishment is appropriate. However, "expunging" him from the sport doesn't make any more sense than what he did to the records. (In fact it sounds kinda similar.) He still has some great qualities as a coach and mentor, or all these former swimmers and collegues wouldn't be stepping up in his defense. I fail to see any similarity at all actually. The way I see it, the coach being fired would be fair and just punishment for what he did. Do you actually think that what the coach did to these swimmers was fair and just? The coach does not, he openly admits that it was wrong. Did they, the swimmers, somehow deserve to have their records expunged? Unless they were found to be cheating then I don't see any fairness in it at all. As a matter of fact, I think Michael McLean did the right thing by selecting the internship over the summer training. Remember, college is about preparing yourself for life and I think a summer internship is bound to do him more good in the future than swim training in the off season. No? As far as people stepping up to defend him, that means nothing to me whatsoever. Shoot, you can still find people to this day who will tell you that Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Timothy McVeigh, etc...had quality attributes that should not be forgotten. The facts are the facts regardless of what these alumni have stated. I am not saying that this guy is a bad man but I am saying that he has acted in such a way as to lose his privilege to coach outstading young athletes at an outstading school. Almost forgot, I am not saying that he should be expunged from swimming (I am not sure how Stanford could really achieve that without a felonious act anyhow). After he is fired from Stanford there should be no limit on where he can go. Any team willing to hire him should feel free to do so.
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