Breakout Tips?

Recently, I've been trying to stay under water longer and SDK more. But I notice my breakouts seem to be pretty sub-par on all strokes (especially *** where I practically come to a dead halt). Any tips for better breakouts on the start and turns? Also, on backstroke, when do you begin the transition from SDK-ing to flutter kicking before you surface?
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  • Fort, a few things: - Be sure you are practicing this stuff at the start of practice not at the end when your tired. - Angle as discussed here is extremely important.....one thing I see a lot of is people being to shallow on their turn push off's. If you watch the best (Natalie, Crocker, etc.) you'll see them going 4-6 feet deep before driving up and out. - Remember...not everyone benefits from extended kicking off turns....my wife for example loses ground if she dolphins more than twice before going to flutter and breaking out....prior to the latest injury i've been playing with up to 11 dolphins off starts and 5-9 off turns (it varies by stroke) - Last but not least....forget about trying trying to improve that breastroke crap.....just remind yourself that it was aa stroke created soley for misplaced gymnasts! :thhbbb: Thanks everyone. Having timed myself, I think I'm better doing more SDKs on fly and back. Not as many on sprint free probably, although I recall someone (FlyQueen?) saying Ian Crocker swam the allowed 15 meters under water of each length of his :42 100 free. However, I do not have infinite lung capacity (or Paul's either). I've been trying to aim deeper as everyone suggests. Still, sometimes I misjudge exactly how far from the surface I am and have a draggy breakout or start thinking I won't get back to the surface before the lungs burst. I try to work on SDKs more on my own. During team practice, the SDKs do degrade as I degrade. (Today, I had the good sense to get out at 4,000 when I was blasted while everyone else did another 1100.) I'm not worrying about the breaststroke too much, Paul, but I am an ex-gymnast.:thhbbb: And the pullout is all I got, man. Paul: Is that your wife in your avatar? She's gorgeous! As said ex-gymnast, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a clip of that breaststroke breakout that Allen is mentioning. I think I'm probably lifting my head to get oxygen ... Fortunately, but utterly unconsciously, I appear to be doing what Peter suggests. Barb: I would venture to say that elite swimmers have to work on all this stuff pretty continuously too. Anyone can get sloppy if they're not vigilant. Plus, everyone has weak points, me especially.
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  • Fort, a few things: - Be sure you are practicing this stuff at the start of practice not at the end when your tired. - Angle as discussed here is extremely important.....one thing I see a lot of is people being to shallow on their turn push off's. If you watch the best (Natalie, Crocker, etc.) you'll see them going 4-6 feet deep before driving up and out. - Remember...not everyone benefits from extended kicking off turns....my wife for example loses ground if she dolphins more than twice before going to flutter and breaking out....prior to the latest injury i've been playing with up to 11 dolphins off starts and 5-9 off turns (it varies by stroke) - Last but not least....forget about trying trying to improve that breastroke crap.....just remind yourself that it was aa stroke created soley for misplaced gymnasts! :thhbbb: Thanks everyone. Having timed myself, I think I'm better doing more SDKs on fly and back. Not as many on sprint free probably, although I recall someone (FlyQueen?) saying Ian Crocker swam the allowed 15 meters under water of each length of his :42 100 free. However, I do not have infinite lung capacity (or Paul's either). I've been trying to aim deeper as everyone suggests. Still, sometimes I misjudge exactly how far from the surface I am and have a draggy breakout or start thinking I won't get back to the surface before the lungs burst. I try to work on SDKs more on my own. During team practice, the SDKs do degrade as I degrade. (Today, I had the good sense to get out at 4,000 when I was blasted while everyone else did another 1100.) I'm not worrying about the breaststroke too much, Paul, but I am an ex-gymnast.:thhbbb: And the pullout is all I got, man. Paul: Is that your wife in your avatar? She's gorgeous! As said ex-gymnast, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a clip of that breaststroke breakout that Allen is mentioning. I think I'm probably lifting my head to get oxygen ... Fortunately, but utterly unconsciously, I appear to be doing what Peter suggests. Barb: I would venture to say that elite swimmers have to work on all this stuff pretty continuously too. Anyone can get sloppy if they're not vigilant. Plus, everyone has weak points, me especially.
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