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I apologize to everyone for my part in this....I lost my cool that is for sure...and we all probably regret some of the things that were said here....I will promise to make a real effort to try to be on my best behavior from now on ....I guess this isn't the first time I've allowed myself to get sucked into a juvenile fight here.....Hopefully some of my friends like Matt (and others who may not approve of my behavior) can forgive my actions and we can salvage our friendships somehow. Lets try and get back to being nice to one another (or at least somewhat civil to eachother)...it was a lot more fun when that was happening...(the group hug approach That BorntoFly suggests sounds o.k. to me....) Thanks for defending me fort, Rich, and Beth (and others) even though I share much of the blame here. You guys are good friends! Newmastersswimmer This thread has certainly brought out a side of many members that I had not previously seen. I carry grudges only rarely and nothing took place here that would warrant such a thing anyhow. Don't get me wrong though, I am not saying this battle of ideas is over just yet...I enjoy a heated debate now and again.

I apologize to everyone for my part in this....I lost my cool that is for sure...and we all probably regret some of the things that were said here....I will promise to make a real effort to try to be on my best behavior from now on ....I guess this isn't the first time I've allowed myself to get sucked into a juvenile fight here.....Hopefully some of my friends like Matt (and others who may not approve of my behavior) can forgive my actions and we can salvage our friendships somehow. Lets try and get back to being nice to one another (or at least somewhat civil to eachother)...it was a lot more fun when that was happening...(the group hug approach That BorntoFly suggests sounds o.k. to me....) Thanks for defending me fort, Rich, and Beth (and others) even though I share much of the blame here. You guys are good friends! Newmastersswimmer This thread has certainly brought out a side of many members that I had not previously seen. I carry grudges only rarely and nothing took place here that would warrant such a thing anyhow. Don't get me wrong though, I am not saying this battle of ideas is over just yet...I enjoy a heated debate now and again.