Leslie, as I posted previously, I most certainly was not attacking you personally. Lindsay understood my intention quite clearly. I am duly impressed with your top ten rankings, of which I obviously have none. Likewise, I am confident that your team's workouts are intense and challenging. Rest assured that I will take you up on your invitation and drop in for a workout if I am in your area (as I have done with Masters teams in Boston, Phoenix, Chicago, and of course Austin). Saturday just wasn't feasible.
THIS POST ILLUSTRATES WHY PMS SHOULD NOT BE PUBLISHED!
Until Gull posted, this thread was dead and we had all left it alone after FlyQueen's last comment. I feel like this recent comment was just nasty baiting and Gull undoubtedly knew people would respond and not appreciate it. As I said before, to me, there is no difference between profanity (are we scared of that too now?) and hatefulness. Just because the latter is not accompanied by a four letter word, does not make it any less objectionable. I think Geek and Gull are simply used to leading flame wars and decided the time was ripe again. Unfortunately, no one seems overly inclined to be tame lambs. It's really just a shame.
Craig:
I didn't especially think you were targeting only me at the time. But to re-start an argument in a new thread when a prior thread had been closed could be perceived that way. And the tone of this thread in general has been quite attack-mode. I tried to respond to the unnecessarily mean comments in a somewhat restrained manner. (Although I sparred back some, as I usually do. Feistress nature.)
I really hate your post of today though. I said absolutely nothing about any rankings and you are now attempting to make me sound pompous with your "duly impressed" comment. I am far from it, I assure you. In fact, I am infinitely more likely to engage in the kind of self-deprecating humor you use rather than outright bragging. Thus, I am not "duly impressed" with your parting salvo and think less of you now for having made it since it only serves to demean me, unfortunately.
As for the comments about my team, I'm sure our teams both do challenging practices. I was just defending my team. As I explained in an earlier post, some of my teammates are likely too much the joksters for your taste; others are more decorous and respectful. I shouldn't have said anything in the first place.
I don't know what you mean by "I'm out." I hope it's just out of this thread because it would be very, very sad if you stopped posting. Until this thread, I had very much enjoyed all your posts and sparring and general good humor and advice. So I'm hoping it's just the thread that's disgusted you, as it has others. I certainly understand your position about decorum and respect it. Believe me, I will not mention undergarments again. I would just like to be respected in turn.
I appreciate posters efforts to defend myself and others. Outright attacks tend to cause counter-attacks. It is a very mellow poster who can sit by idly and say nothing, even when they know that's the best policy. I include myself in the group that can't. Please don't mention any rankings though. I will refrain from posting any workout times as well. I would really hate to somehow be perceived as elitist. I abhor that. I'm just as interested in learning as the next person and I have many, many things to work on, which is why I started the breaststroke threads in the first place -- that being my most glaring of many deficiencies. And, for the record, I also suck at freestyle and my twin and many others can trounce me in the 100 and 200. We won't even speak of distance where the entire forum makes me look like a wannabe amateur.
Leslie, as I posted previously, I most certainly was not attacking you personally. Lindsay understood my intention quite clearly. I am duly impressed with your top ten rankings, of which I obviously have none. Likewise, I am confident that your team's workouts are intense and challenging. Rest assured that I will take you up on your invitation and drop in for a workout if I am in your area (as I have done with Masters teams in Boston, Phoenix, Chicago, and of course Austin). Saturday just wasn't feasible.
THIS POST ILLUSTRATES WHY PMS SHOULD NOT BE PUBLISHED!
Until Gull posted, this thread was dead and we had all left it alone after FlyQueen's last comment. I feel like this recent comment was just nasty baiting and Gull undoubtedly knew people would respond and not appreciate it. As I said before, to me, there is no difference between profanity (are we scared of that too now?) and hatefulness. Just because the latter is not accompanied by a four letter word, does not make it any less objectionable. I think Geek and Gull are simply used to leading flame wars and decided the time was ripe again. Unfortunately, no one seems overly inclined to be tame lambs. It's really just a shame.
Craig:
I didn't especially think you were targeting only me at the time. But to re-start an argument in a new thread when a prior thread had been closed could be perceived that way. And the tone of this thread in general has been quite attack-mode. I tried to respond to the unnecessarily mean comments in a somewhat restrained manner. (Although I sparred back some, as I usually do. Feistress nature.)
I really hate your post of today though. I said absolutely nothing about any rankings and you are now attempting to make me sound pompous with your "duly impressed" comment. I am far from it, I assure you. In fact, I am infinitely more likely to engage in the kind of self-deprecating humor you use rather than outright bragging. Thus, I am not "duly impressed" with your parting salvo and think less of you now for having made it since it only serves to demean me, unfortunately.
As for the comments about my team, I'm sure our teams both do challenging practices. I was just defending my team. As I explained in an earlier post, some of my teammates are likely too much the joksters for your taste; others are more decorous and respectful. I shouldn't have said anything in the first place.
I don't know what you mean by "I'm out." I hope it's just out of this thread because it would be very, very sad if you stopped posting. Until this thread, I had very much enjoyed all your posts and sparring and general good humor and advice. So I'm hoping it's just the thread that's disgusted you, as it has others. I certainly understand your position about decorum and respect it. Believe me, I will not mention undergarments again. I would just like to be respected in turn.
I appreciate posters efforts to defend myself and others. Outright attacks tend to cause counter-attacks. It is a very mellow poster who can sit by idly and say nothing, even when they know that's the best policy. I include myself in the group that can't. Please don't mention any rankings though. I will refrain from posting any workout times as well. I would really hate to somehow be perceived as elitist. I abhor that. I'm just as interested in learning as the next person and I have many, many things to work on, which is why I started the breaststroke threads in the first place -- that being my most glaring of many deficiencies. And, for the record, I also suck at freestyle and my twin and many others can trounce me in the 100 and 200. We won't even speak of distance where the entire forum makes me look like a wannabe amateur.
