The Tipping Point?

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In another thread, the Fortress mentioned that her former coach thought that 25,000 yards or meters was a so-called "tipping point" for real aerobic conditioning/fitness in swimming. What does everyone think? It seems like a lot of yardage that is probably not necessarily for a pure sprinter. But what if you're a distance or OW geek or swimming the 400 IM or 200 fly? Is 25,000 the magic number? It seems like many forumites must be hitting that number because I have read about quite a few 5,000+ workouts. So, what is the "tipping point?"
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  • Hey twin. His name is Trevor Basil. Really great guy. He left Georgia after his shoulder surgery, though, and graduated elsewhere. He also coached my daughter's USS team for awhile before joining the corporate world (which he doesn't like). He couldn't do breastroke though. And my current coach hates it. I'm sunk. What's your "tipping point" or typical season yardage wise for maximum sprinter performance, assuming no ghastly shoulder issues? (I hope you are better and in the water!!!!) Islandsox: I read that information about Laura Val here on some thread. Hi Sis! Luckily, I don't let myself reach a "tipping" point. If I'm exhausted, I take a day or two off and rest! I believe it is such an individual thing. There are so many variables!: - how intense are your workouts? - are you a sprinter or a distance swimmer? - how much sleep are you getting? - are you eating a nutritious diet? - how stressful is your life outside the pool? These are the things that tend to effect performance in the water. I say just listen to your body. Everyone's tipping point will be different at any given time. As a Masters swimmer I have had to change my way of thinking from the "tear down - no pain no gain" mentality to "quality not quantity". I will never forget reaching a "tipping point" one summer when I was about 18. I was doing a 3 hour long course workout in the morning and a 2 hour short course workout in the afternoon every day. One morning we did a set of 10x800's and I was "in the zone"! I just felt amazing.....which is saying a lot for me since I was/am a sprinter! My coach kept encouraging me and I was holding amazing times! (also amazing for the same reason...) At the end of that workout, I passed out when I got out of the pool! I could not even stand up for about 30 minutes without getting woozy. Looking back, I think I probably had low blood sugar and dehydration! I never ate breakfast before I swam and we didn't drink anything during our workouts back then! After that day, I was TOAST! I struggled in workouts and stayed tired! Even with a taper, I never did a pb that long course season! I don't EVER plan on "tipping" again!:frustrated:
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  • Hey twin. His name is Trevor Basil. Really great guy. He left Georgia after his shoulder surgery, though, and graduated elsewhere. He also coached my daughter's USS team for awhile before joining the corporate world (which he doesn't like). He couldn't do breastroke though. And my current coach hates it. I'm sunk. What's your "tipping point" or typical season yardage wise for maximum sprinter performance, assuming no ghastly shoulder issues? (I hope you are better and in the water!!!!) Islandsox: I read that information about Laura Val here on some thread. Hi Sis! Luckily, I don't let myself reach a "tipping" point. If I'm exhausted, I take a day or two off and rest! I believe it is such an individual thing. There are so many variables!: - how intense are your workouts? - are you a sprinter or a distance swimmer? - how much sleep are you getting? - are you eating a nutritious diet? - how stressful is your life outside the pool? These are the things that tend to effect performance in the water. I say just listen to your body. Everyone's tipping point will be different at any given time. As a Masters swimmer I have had to change my way of thinking from the "tear down - no pain no gain" mentality to "quality not quantity". I will never forget reaching a "tipping point" one summer when I was about 18. I was doing a 3 hour long course workout in the morning and a 2 hour short course workout in the afternoon every day. One morning we did a set of 10x800's and I was "in the zone"! I just felt amazing.....which is saying a lot for me since I was/am a sprinter! My coach kept encouraging me and I was holding amazing times! (also amazing for the same reason...) At the end of that workout, I passed out when I got out of the pool! I could not even stand up for about 30 minutes without getting woozy. Looking back, I think I probably had low blood sugar and dehydration! I never ate breakfast before I swam and we didn't drink anything during our workouts back then! After that day, I was TOAST! I struggled in workouts and stayed tired! Even with a taper, I never did a pb that long course season! I don't EVER plan on "tipping" again!:frustrated:
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