How much endurance training?

To quote Gull: What is the right mix of technique and endurance for a Masters athlete (who wants to be competitive, say, at Nationals) with a finite amount of time to train?
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  • Point made, thank you very much. I wasn't referring to Islandsox. Another poster referred to my word choice as preachy. That must have been me, then. But I was responding to a post by Dave in response to a post by Islandsox, not to a post by you. There was no "dissection" going on. You gotta lighten up!! I said to Dave jokingly: He, he, he. Are you guys doing mindful yoga up there in New Paltz too? I guess "focus" or "concentrate" is OK. Just change it up a bit;constantly being told to be "mindful" is a bit preachy to my ears that's all. "In the moment" is kinda "zen" for me, I'm guess. Is "zen" a TI word too? I know "art" is. Different strokes for different folks, as Allen said. I see the benefits of zen, and I'm sure I'd live longer if I was more zen and meditated more, but I'm generally too hyper. I sure wish I could be more "zen" amidst chaotic traffic, which I'm about to go encounter on the way to my allergy shot ...:coffee: I will try to "focus" on my stroke mechanics a bit while I am doing a bit more endurance work this afternoon. I'm sure my mechanics have gone to hell this last month. And since I'm supposed to be working on breaststroke, I'll have to really focus or I'll go so slow that I fall asleep ... I'm going to break out my new monofin too, so I'll have to concentrate on that. I'll probably be exhausted after all this intense focus .... I would just like to add that I do have a book on ashtanga yoga and have been known to do poses around the house to the great amusement of my children. However, they are not more flexible than me, so I do not take much crap. That doesn't sound all that peevish to me. I saw the benefits of "zen." I owned up to owning a yoga book. In fact, I was really poking fun at myself regarding my recent poor training and my sub-par breaststroke. The only posts of yours that I recall having dissected are when you (1) make incorrect statements regarding the origin of shoulder injuries, or (2) peevishly call sprinters "turners" instead of "swimmers." I can't really dissect your endurance posts, as I am not a distance swimmer. I can only ask questions ... In fact, I agree that trying to use a rational process for managing one's physical efforts is good. Poking fun at your word choice is just forum humor, inane though it may be. Maybe a joke is called for. Here a good one. You'll especially like the first part ... Laws of Competitive Swimming UNIVERSAL LAWS AFFECTING COMPETITIVE SWIMMERS (much like Sir Isaac Newton’s laws of motion) *Law of Competitive Gravity* When left unattended, a swimmer will gravitate to the worst technique possible. *Law of Inertia* A swimmer at rest will tend to remain at rest unless acted upon by an outside force. A swimmer in motion will tend to rest as soon as possible unless acted upon by an outside force. *Conservation of Matter* Matter or Mass can neither be created nor destroyed, except by 11-18 year old females, when it can magically appear in the most inopportune places and quantities imaginable. *Opposition Principle* When asked to kick rapidly, swimmers tend not to; when told not to kick, swimmers tend to kick rapidly. *Space, Time Continuum* When swimming Breaststroke or Butterfly in practice, swimmers hands are attracted to the turning wall, each hand at a different speed, at different times, at different points not in the same plane. *Laws of Acceleration & Momentum* The law of acceleration may only apply for 3 minutes after coach reminds swimmer it is important, then the law of Momentum becomes dominant soon to be replaced by the law of Inertia. *Law of Static Levels* Swimmers will automatically seek their own comfort level and tend to attract others to so the same. * Mind over Matter* The mind can overcome many obstacles during competition but the same does not usually apply during practices. *Law of Finite Attraction* Even after carefully explaining the efficiency and effectiveness of an ideal stroke rate, within 3 minutes swimmer will invariably lose the ability to count strokes and think about any related concept. See similar anomaly under Law of Acceleration. * Relativity * The position of the swimmer’s body in relation to the position it is supposed to be in, may vary up to +or- 100%. *Vertical and Horizontal Telemetry * When rotated 90 degrees from the vertical to supine or sublime position, the brain loses most of its ability to function. *Historical Principle of Babylon* Within 3 minutes of the start of coach speaking, the swimmers begin hearing unrecognizable tongues. See similar anomaly under Law of Finite Attraction. *Fluid Mechanics* The amount of fluids the bladder can retain is directly proportional to the difficulty of the middle of the current practice set. The same principle seems to apply to ripping caps and broken goggle straps, but no scientific evidence connecting the 3 has been documented.
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  • Point made, thank you very much. I wasn't referring to Islandsox. Another poster referred to my word choice as preachy. That must have been me, then. But I was responding to a post by Dave in response to a post by Islandsox, not to a post by you. There was no "dissection" going on. You gotta lighten up!! I said to Dave jokingly: He, he, he. Are you guys doing mindful yoga up there in New Paltz too? I guess "focus" or "concentrate" is OK. Just change it up a bit;constantly being told to be "mindful" is a bit preachy to my ears that's all. "In the moment" is kinda "zen" for me, I'm guess. Is "zen" a TI word too? I know "art" is. Different strokes for different folks, as Allen said. I see the benefits of zen, and I'm sure I'd live longer if I was more zen and meditated more, but I'm generally too hyper. I sure wish I could be more "zen" amidst chaotic traffic, which I'm about to go encounter on the way to my allergy shot ...:coffee: I will try to "focus" on my stroke mechanics a bit while I am doing a bit more endurance work this afternoon. I'm sure my mechanics have gone to hell this last month. And since I'm supposed to be working on breaststroke, I'll have to really focus or I'll go so slow that I fall asleep ... I'm going to break out my new monofin too, so I'll have to concentrate on that. I'll probably be exhausted after all this intense focus .... I would just like to add that I do have a book on ashtanga yoga and have been known to do poses around the house to the great amusement of my children. However, they are not more flexible than me, so I do not take much crap. That doesn't sound all that peevish to me. I saw the benefits of "zen." I owned up to owning a yoga book. In fact, I was really poking fun at myself regarding my recent poor training and my sub-par breaststroke. The only posts of yours that I recall having dissected are when you (1) make incorrect statements regarding the origin of shoulder injuries, or (2) peevishly call sprinters "turners" instead of "swimmers." I can't really dissect your endurance posts, as I am not a distance swimmer. I can only ask questions ... In fact, I agree that trying to use a rational process for managing one's physical efforts is good. Poking fun at your word choice is just forum humor, inane though it may be. Maybe a joke is called for. Here a good one. You'll especially like the first part ... Laws of Competitive Swimming UNIVERSAL LAWS AFFECTING COMPETITIVE SWIMMERS (much like Sir Isaac Newton’s laws of motion) *Law of Competitive Gravity* When left unattended, a swimmer will gravitate to the worst technique possible. *Law of Inertia* A swimmer at rest will tend to remain at rest unless acted upon by an outside force. A swimmer in motion will tend to rest as soon as possible unless acted upon by an outside force. *Conservation of Matter* Matter or Mass can neither be created nor destroyed, except by 11-18 year old females, when it can magically appear in the most inopportune places and quantities imaginable. *Opposition Principle* When asked to kick rapidly, swimmers tend not to; when told not to kick, swimmers tend to kick rapidly. *Space, Time Continuum* When swimming Breaststroke or Butterfly in practice, swimmers hands are attracted to the turning wall, each hand at a different speed, at different times, at different points not in the same plane. *Laws of Acceleration & Momentum* The law of acceleration may only apply for 3 minutes after coach reminds swimmer it is important, then the law of Momentum becomes dominant soon to be replaced by the law of Inertia. *Law of Static Levels* Swimmers will automatically seek their own comfort level and tend to attract others to so the same. * Mind over Matter* The mind can overcome many obstacles during competition but the same does not usually apply during practices. *Law of Finite Attraction* Even after carefully explaining the efficiency and effectiveness of an ideal stroke rate, within 3 minutes swimmer will invariably lose the ability to count strokes and think about any related concept. See similar anomaly under Law of Acceleration. * Relativity * The position of the swimmer’s body in relation to the position it is supposed to be in, may vary up to +or- 100%. *Vertical and Horizontal Telemetry * When rotated 90 degrees from the vertical to supine or sublime position, the brain loses most of its ability to function. *Historical Principle of Babylon* Within 3 minutes of the start of coach speaking, the swimmers begin hearing unrecognizable tongues. See similar anomaly under Law of Finite Attraction. *Fluid Mechanics* The amount of fluids the bladder can retain is directly proportional to the difficulty of the middle of the current practice set. The same principle seems to apply to ripping caps and broken goggle straps, but no scientific evidence connecting the 3 has been documented.
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