Anyone fast with only 1500-2000 yds a day?

You can add some isometrics to improve your stroke. I love the idea of quality vs. quantity. As one of our colleagues said "get rid of the junk". You should be able to swim fast or faster on that yardage if you can improve your technique (streamlining, EVF, cardio). Train smarter is the key and I know you can do it! Coach T.

Warren, You just prove to me that it can be done. Also, for someone like Lezak, that can't be alot of yardage for an olympian. I think Gary Hall Jr. also wrote about doing mindless volume and how it interfered with going fast. Another question, Why is it I never hear of sprinters doing full recovery? and by that I mean at least 10 minutes between 100's. If we are going to do anaerobic workouts, doesn't it make sense to buffer that lactic acid between reps so that quality and intensity can be maintained with each rep? This leads to low volume workouts!! I don't think sprinters should be guilty of 2000 yd workouts. At least 41 yr old ones anyway. Gary Hall Jr does almost all of his aerobic work outside the pool because he believes that there are better ways to get aerobic training with out doing lap after lap in the pool. He had the second fastest second lap in the 100 in sydney, so that says alot about his aerobic level. He also says that in practice you should do things that make you feel the same pain as you do in your particular event. You feel different at the end of a 100 compared to the 1500. Its a different pain. And If you are training for the 50 you can not achieve the right pain if you are doing tons of laps. here is what gary said on his site. "Okay, here is something else you can try. If you can't put a stationary bike next to the pool, try this. Hold your breathe while you do 10-20 pushups. Try starting with 10 and work your way up. Be in your suit already. Get up from the pushups, dive in, kick 25 underwater all out, then pop up and sprint 25 all out. If you do this right you should feel that horrible burn (that makes you want to throw up) that you feel at the end of an all out (competition all out) 100. There are different kinds of pain. There are sharp pain and dull aching pain. The pain that you feel during a 10K practice isn't anything like the pain that you will feel doing a set of these 50's. If you do a set of ten of these 50's, if you can, you just swam 500. 500 is not very far, but you have recreated the exact pain that you feel in the competition! Try it. Don't pass out."

I have started my 1000m a day again and intend to win the 100 and 50 fly and free in my age groupin Winnipeg in May. I think I will be fast enough.

Maybe if you bump it up to 2500 you'll be able to break 50 seconds in the 100! Only half kidding. If you can go sub 22 in the 50 you really should be able to break 50 in the 100. yeah I know, Its more than one factor though. I'm bad at flip turns and bad at splitting. When I went 50 I took it out to slow. 24.03 25.97. My goal is to get my 100 down to 47.99 with 22.5 25.49.

yes you can swim very fast on 1,500 to 2000 a day warm up do some stroke drills main set: do high quality sprints with plenty of rest (swimming and kicking) 15's, 25's, 50's 75's 100's do repeat sets and racing swim down after each hard effort swim down get out it's important to lift weights / get strong ande Here's the deal. I can only swim 50 min to one hour a day, which equates to at most 2000 yards for endurance work and 1500 yards for faster interval work with more rest. I feel guilty when I read about other peoples yardage. Is anyone putting up some fast freestyle times with this little yardage? If so, what are the times? I really want to know.

i didn't read your post all the way yesterday paul I thought those were YOUR work out times not nick's and I was thinking crap I've got my work cut out for me even if a swimmer is having success with the short high intensity work outs if they are elite you can be pretty sure at some point in their careers they put in some seriious work ande Lezak's competition (Nick Brunelli) has a bit of a different theory on training for sprinters.....below is a post from his Race Club blog. Goes to show you.....to each his own! njBrunelli Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 56 Location: tempe Arizona Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Right after the 4-week mark from surgery, I was back in the water kicking. Vertical kicking and kicking on my back keeping my arm fully secured to my body. -6 weeks after surgery I was able to move my shoulder slightly in the water but only light motions and no pulling or recovering over the water. -Around 8 weeks, I was now moving my arm in a swim like motion but I was still not able to pull water. My swimming range of motion for freestyle was about 80 percent. I was having trouble getting on my left side and extending my arm out in front. During this time I was using fins and letting my arm move but not pull water. The Sets I did were all kick dominated. And when I swam I would just swim sets of 200's easy with fins making sure my stroke technique was where it needed to be. -Around 10 weeks I was swimming again and able to use the arm a lot more. My range of motion for freestyle was about 90 percent. This is where I was doing longer swims. An idea would be 300's and 400s just working on stroke technique. This is when I started to explore other strokes, mainly backstroke. 12 weeks out I was swimming full time, but no sprinting. I was working on technique and 200-pace stuff. My backstroke was a good break when my shoulder was getting tired from freestyle. A practice looked like this: 500 warm up 4 x 150 kick on 2:30 desc 4 x 100 kick on 1:45 neg. split 4 x 50 kick on 1min fast 25 under water 25 over water 12 x 75s swim/dr/swim 20 x 50's swim on 1min - all holding 200 pace keeping stroke together 5 x 200's swim on 2:30 - desc to 80% working stroke technique. 1 x 600 swim with fins working stroke tech with fins -About 14 weeks out from surgery, Dec 19th we did this set: Yards set 32 x 50's on 1 min. 1 easy 1 fast from a push Held 23.1 to 22.6 on all the fast ones. -16 weeks on Dec. 27th I was home swimming with BOSS, (Bay and Ocean State Squids) out of Harvard and Brown. I did what the team was doing. Here is the set: Meters set 1 x 800 Back 100 dr/100 swim 1 x 800 Back Desc by 200's 1 x 800 Back fast neg split The last 400 I was 4:45

one comment with 21.83 50 speed your 100 should be much faster than 50.0 on paper you should be able to go under 48 21.83 + 1 + 21.83 + 3 = 47.66 ande I do about 1500-2000 per work out, im 19 50 free- 21.83 100 free- 50.00 I do alot of sprint work in my practices though so if you training for anything over a 100, 2000 yards ain't going to fly. Heres an interesting fact, Jason Lezak does only 4000 yards/meters per work out 5 times a week. Yardage doesn't mean jack. Quality yardage is what matters. If Lezak started doing 10,000 meters a day he would definatly not make bejing in the 50 free and its posible that he might not make it in the 100either. Training for swimming is really all about science. The more laps the better attitude won't get you anywhere. Alot of age group coaches have this attitude and I hate thoes people.

When I went 50 I took it out to slow. 24.03 25.97. My goal is to get my 100 down to 47.99 with 22.5 25.49. Yes, definitely took it out too slow, which is actually a good thing because it should make you pretty confident you can swim much faster with better splitting. I think your 47.99 is a very realistic goal. In response to rtodd: I don't know how to say this without seeming like a bit of an elitist, but here goes. I think there are a lot of fast masters swimmers who only train 50 minutes to an hour per day, but I think most of them are getting in a lot more than 1500-2000 yards in that amount of time. I can get in close to 3,000 with more sprint work, and 4,000 with more endurance focus. Now, I don't know how old you are, so obviously things are different if we're talking about a "fast" 25 year old versus a "fast" 70 year old, but still 2,000 yards in an hour doesn't seem like much. Can you try to increase how much yardage you're getting in per workout?

I'm 42. I can swim 1000yds in 18 minutes, so I guess I could do 3000 yds in an hour. But My focus is really the 100. I desperately want to get under a minute this year. If I can do that, then I know I have a future as a sprinter, since this is my second season. Because my intensity is high and rest periods longer, the volume ends up being less than 2000 yds. I would like to extend my workouts to 90 minutes, but I have time constraints. I spend time in the gym (although I just heard Phelps say he does NO lifting) and also the bike. I think I have descent strength for sprinting.

I'm 42. .... But My focus is really the 100. I desperately want to get under a minute this year. If I can do that, then I know I have a future as a sprinter, since this is my second season. I gave up running when in my mid 30's and started swimming in my late 40's. You can get under a minute with 2000-3000 a day. I did at 53.