Okay, I'm actually not kidding with this one. Latley, I have been starving ALL the time. My muscles have been really tired in workout, too. I'm certainly not overtraining - I make it 5 days/week usually, sometimes a 6th on my own, and lately it's been 4 or 5. And we aren't cranking out the yards like crazy either.
I think either something is missing from my diet or I'm just not eating enough ... my guess is it's the former. Any thoughts? I eat a fair amount of protein. I constantly amaze people with just how much I do eat so I don't think it's that ...
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I'll get one too...
I'll take you on, Rich. Although it appears that Fanstone may be a lawyer too. Or is he a doctor? Couldn't tell from his last post ... Isn't there some other damn lawyer too? Is it BillS? I don't want to take every pro bono case.
Oh, I don't eat PB or PBJ though. That's kid stuff.
Okay, I'm actually not kidding with this one. Latley, I have been starving ALL the time. My muscles have been really tired in workout, too. I'm certainly not overtraining - I make it 5 days/week usually, sometimes a 6th on my own, and lately it's been 4 or 5. And we aren't cranking out the yards like crazy either.
I think either something is missing from my diet or I'm just not eating enough ... my guess is it's the former. Any thoughts? I eat a fair amount of protein. I constantly amaze people with just how much I do eat so I don't think it's that ...
Add a few more carbs...just my thought...especially if you lack zip in training. It could be that those muslces are using up the protein to grow and then over burning carbs.
I am sure I'll get corrected on this, but I would make yourself a 1 slice peanut butter sandwich 45 minutes before you swim. You might belch a few times in your swim but you shouldn't barf. I am a firm believer in peanut power. The alternative to PB is Nutella.
I used to do this then go run 2-4 miles 3x a week, but I also used to play 2hrs of soccer every evening too...boy I was fit...all I can say is PB worked for me.
Caution: do not make peanut butter and jelly though; only heathens would mix something like that. PBJ surely is the devil's work...
From time to time I eat a fabulous PB&J before practice, but two hours out ... I CANNOT eat ANYTHING within two hours of practice. I'm a big fan of peanut butter ... I eat peanut butter toast frequently ... maybe I'll hit the peanut butter AND jellys again for a couple of weeks before practice and see what happens ...
If you insist on eating PB AND Jelly I will hunt you down in the night and take you to the pool where I shall force you to swim breastroke until you get it right! :rofl:
Disclaimer: Rich is totally joking and is not likely to hunt anyone down at night or in the daytime. He merely views PB&J as an anathema, and is also lashing out at the constant attacks on, and swipes at his beloved, nay, sacred breaststroke. :)
That was fabulous ... you'll be hearing from my attorney ... oh, Fortress .... :rofl:
I'll get one too...and when I'm done you'll both be pounding out streamline, pull, kick, unitil you develop thigh muscles like Tom Platz... www.classicbodybuilders.com/.../tomplatz3.jpg :thhbbb:
;) :) :rofl:
I'll get one too...and when I'm done you'll both be pounding out streamline, pull, kick, unitil you develop thigh muscles like Tom Platz... www.classicbodybuilders.com/.../tomplatz3.jpg :thhbbb:
;) :) :rofl:
That's hot Rich. I dream of my thighs someday looking like that so that I can overpower the puiny girly water. ;)
As for eating, I'd say look at the new food pyramid. You'll probably have to up the amount of carbs and protein that you eat by maybe a serving or two, but since you'll burn it all off anyway, doesn't matter. Carbs definatley keep you full for a while, and I find that some veggies do to. Veggies and protein can tide me over for hours. If not, enjoy the benefits of a high metoabolism while you're young and eat everything that isnt' nailed down.:groovy:
Check out glycemic index info on the web against the type of carbs you are currently ingesting. Quick release sugars might be to blame for your fatigue. Carbs that release their sugars over a longer time frame may help with your fatigue issues as long as there is no other confounding variable in this equation ie;anemia, overtraining.
I think seagurl mentioned this, but I would take a look at the food pyramid. I was quite impressed going to something like myfoodpyramid.gov and the "new" food pyramid gives calorie guidelines for different ages and work levels, etc.
This past year I've made a concentrated effort to eat healthier. This summer I thought I was doing well at this but found myself famished with the swimming. Upon reviewing my diet I realized several things were missing.
I should have been eating at least 2 pieces of fruit every day and about 2-3 cups of varied vegetables. While I was getting enough protein, whole grains, and sugar I was not nearly meeting the expectations in the fruit and veggies department.
Since changing my diet to encorporate 2 pieces of fruit and 2-3 cups of vegetables I can't remember the last time I said I was famished when prior to this it was on a regular basis. I think all the fiber fills you up.
Another thing I've done is added nuts. Just about 5 days a week I'll eat about 1/4 cup of unsalted nuts like walnuts or almonds. Lots of good for you fats and protein in there. That fills me up pretty fast, too.
Love Kaitlin...part of the dream team up at Club Wolverine. I can't wait until worlds next year to see how that team performs. I am gunning for Vendt to make an Olympians journey to Beijing in 2008.
Erik Vendt might be my favorite swimmer. What a stud. I am amazed by what I read about his workouts and work ethic. There are going to be some amazing battles in 08 for that team on both sides (men and women). I get all excited just thinking about it ... I definitely want to see Kaitlin on the team, too.
Hi Heather,
I had to respond to your post as I too noticed that I was eating a bit TOO MUCH when I started back masters swimming a few years ago. Why was I hungry ALL THE TIME?!
Now, I don't have any scientific answers, but I can tell you what's been working for me this year - and I eat less and have been losing a few pounds.
I had to shake the mentality that I had as a kid that "you can eat anything."
I did that as an adult masters and noticed that my size S tops were getting a bit tight in the arms (I am muscular but I need to say light and lean to race fast.)
All I did was make sure I ate 3 meals a day and that snacks are only healthy things like fruit and salads and occasional power bars. Sounds like you are right on track with the protein.
My big thing that I feel makes the difference for me is that I really cut down my sugar intake. I stay far away now from the sports drinks (except on meet day or practices over 2 hours) as many of them have LOTS of sugar. I really noticed that sugar REALLY increases my appetite. Also, I cut out about 80% of the desserts that I would eat (I would eat one big dessert a day at dinner). Now, I shoot for one or two less fatty, less sugary desserts a week - like sherbert or frozen yogurt. Also, I cut down on fast food to about 1x per two weeks. Once I got into a new habit of less sugar (and I cut way down on white bread - only eat mostly whole wheat), it's really easy to follow and I don't feel like I'm giving anything up. (And I was the queen of the sweet tooth) - just ask my husband! And, I'm much more full all the time. Truly. Note that I train about 6x a week at 5 to 6K and do weights 2 to 3 times a week.
So - I'm not saying to cut out sugar and white bread completely! Not at all. I just learned that I was ingesting tons of both substances and that made me RAVENOUS on a continual basis.
Hope this helps!
Okay, don't hate me but ... I'm actually losing weight. I'm not trying to but I've dropped a good size, maybe a size and a half. My family is joking that I'm going to waste away ... I don't think that'll happen ...
Basically, I'm looking for what I'm missing in my diet. THANKS for the idea about sugar. I'll definitely have to watch that ... I do have a few snickerdoodles sitting on my desk right now though ... hmmm ...
Big Sister/Fortress ... I do have a really high metabolism ...
Okay, don't hate me but ... I'm actually losing weight. Big Sister/Fortress ... I do have a really high metabolism ...
Me too. Or so I've been told. I noticed a tiny slow down at 41 or so. Might have been having my last kid at 39 that gummed up the works. But right now I'm holding ... at a size 4. What are you, a size 2 with that 5'2" stature thing going on? I don't think Kristina will hate you. She looked fabulous in that prom dress.