Stroke Rate vs Stroke Length, which is more difficult?
Former Member
This topic may have been discussed in the past but a search gave too many hits. I am very interested by your comment and advices for the following real scenario. This is for kids but may be this could apply to masters. BTW, I am just a parent swimmer, very interested in swimming in general but unfortunately not a good enough swimmer.
Two age group swimmers (11-12 years old) coming from different swimming history have opposite swimming style:
Swimmer 1 (let's call the higher stroke rate swimmer) swims 50 meters freestyle, taking 60 strokes. Swimmer2 does it in 45 strokes, with a time 0.5 to 1 second slower.
In general, Swimmer1 beats Swimmer2 in all distances (freestyle and back). Including a 2000 meter freestyle test set, faster by about 20 seconds. In this particular 2000m, aside the time and stroke rate, Swimmer2 (slower stroke rate) did it with even splits while Swimmer1 positive splits toward the last 25% of the distance.
Q1. Assuming two swimmers have similar aerobic conditions, which one will have better margin of progression? More exactly, would it be "easier" for Swimmer1 to improve the technique or for Swimmer2 to improve the Stroke Rate?
Q2. What would you recommend to these swimmers to get better?
To these two swimmers, stroke rate seems to be the winning bet. Swimmer2 was taught with a focus on excellent technique (and indeed looks better in the water), but is confused as this skill doesn't translate into better performance.
Of course, we are talking about SL and SR relative to a context where the swimmers already know about swimming.
Thanks you in advance for your help.
Parents
Former Member
Solar,
Thank you for a short and precise answer to my question when you wrote:
"No one has ever tried to be fast at free style swimming low. TI included. In sprint situation I mean. *** stroke, and to some extent, butterfly... another story."
All of this time I had been wondering about swimming low with speed and just found it not very possible, but no one told me what you just wrote. Now I get it, finally. Swimming low and/or swimming TI is not designed for speed swimming; it is designed to minimize drag and enjoy swimming with an effortless-looking stroke. It is more for pleasure.
Whew, I was starting to get tired hammering this over and over :frustrated:.
Donna
Solar,
Thank you for a short and precise answer to my question when you wrote:
"No one has ever tried to be fast at free style swimming low. TI included. In sprint situation I mean. *** stroke, and to some extent, butterfly... another story."
All of this time I had been wondering about swimming low with speed and just found it not very possible, but no one told me what you just wrote. Now I get it, finally. Swimming low and/or swimming TI is not designed for speed swimming; it is designed to minimize drag and enjoy swimming with an effortless-looking stroke. It is more for pleasure.
Whew, I was starting to get tired hammering this over and over :frustrated:.
Donna