Stroke Rate vs Stroke Length, which is more difficult?

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This topic may have been discussed in the past but a search gave too many hits. I am very interested by your comment and advices for the following real scenario. This is for kids but may be this could apply to masters. BTW, I am just a parent swimmer, very interested in swimming in general but unfortunately not a good enough swimmer. Two age group swimmers (11-12 years old) coming from different swimming history have opposite swimming style: Swimmer 1 (let's call the higher stroke rate swimmer) swims 50 meters freestyle, taking 60 strokes. Swimmer2 does it in 45 strokes, with a time 0.5 to 1 second slower. In general, Swimmer1 beats Swimmer2 in all distances (freestyle and back). Including a 2000 meter freestyle test set, faster by about 20 seconds. In this particular 2000m, aside the time and stroke rate, Swimmer2 (slower stroke rate) did it with even splits while Swimmer1 positive splits toward the last 25% of the distance. Q1. Assuming two swimmers have similar aerobic conditions, which one will have better margin of progression? More exactly, would it be "easier" for Swimmer1 to improve the technique or for Swimmer2 to improve the Stroke Rate? Q2. What would you recommend to these swimmers to get better? To these two swimmers, stroke rate seems to be the winning bet. Swimmer2 was taught with a focus on excellent technique (and indeed looks better in the water), but is confused as this skill doesn't translate into better performance. Of course, we are talking about SL and SR relative to a context where the swimmers already know about swimming. Thanks you in advance for your help.
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  • A small tangent here please. How do you count your strokes per length? I had someone watch me recently and we came up with different numbers. I counted each and every stroke, he started counting on what I would call my third stroke. When you push off the wall and are gliding with both hands in front there is for me a left pull (I breathe to my right) then a quick right pull, then the first "real" left pull. Now, I count those two (quick/shortish) strokes. The person counting for me did not. So, if I am counting 17 SPL (SCM) he is counting 15, a big difference. And yes, if I am trying to improve my SPL it doesn't matter how I count as long as I count the same way each time. But I am curious as to what is the "correct" way to count. Thanks, Glenn:)
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  • A small tangent here please. How do you count your strokes per length? I had someone watch me recently and we came up with different numbers. I counted each and every stroke, he started counting on what I would call my third stroke. When you push off the wall and are gliding with both hands in front there is for me a left pull (I breathe to my right) then a quick right pull, then the first "real" left pull. Now, I count those two (quick/shortish) strokes. The person counting for me did not. So, if I am counting 17 SPL (SCM) he is counting 15, a big difference. And yes, if I am trying to improve my SPL it doesn't matter how I count as long as I count the same way each time. But I am curious as to what is the "correct" way to count. Thanks, Glenn:)
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