Stroke Rate vs Stroke Length, which is more difficult?
Former Member
This topic may have been discussed in the past but a search gave too many hits. I am very interested by your comment and advices for the following real scenario. This is for kids but may be this could apply to masters. BTW, I am just a parent swimmer, very interested in swimming in general but unfortunately not a good enough swimmer.
Two age group swimmers (11-12 years old) coming from different swimming history have opposite swimming style:
Swimmer 1 (let's call the higher stroke rate swimmer) swims 50 meters freestyle, taking 60 strokes. Swimmer2 does it in 45 strokes, with a time 0.5 to 1 second slower.
In general, Swimmer1 beats Swimmer2 in all distances (freestyle and back). Including a 2000 meter freestyle test set, faster by about 20 seconds. In this particular 2000m, aside the time and stroke rate, Swimmer2 (slower stroke rate) did it with even splits while Swimmer1 positive splits toward the last 25% of the distance.
Q1. Assuming two swimmers have similar aerobic conditions, which one will have better margin of progression? More exactly, would it be "easier" for Swimmer1 to improve the technique or for Swimmer2 to improve the Stroke Rate?
Q2. What would you recommend to these swimmers to get better?
To these two swimmers, stroke rate seems to be the winning bet. Swimmer2 was taught with a focus on excellent technique (and indeed looks better in the water), but is confused as this skill doesn't translate into better performance.
Of course, we are talking about SL and SR relative to a context where the swimmers already know about swimming.
Thanks you in advance for your help.
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Former Member
I have on occasion used a true "effortless" stroke, when I am doing a really long open water swim.Then are you focusing on SPL or SR when you swim OW?
I wasn't explicitly thinking about either.
Think about riding a bicycle, if you choose too low a gear you spin like crazy without getting anywhere, if you choose too high a gear it requires too much power from your muscles and they quickly fatique. There's an "optimal" gear that maximizes endurance.
Thinking about it another way, I was trying to find the fastest speed that I could swim but keep going indefinately (the threshold between aerobic and anaerobic swimming?).
Other things I was thinking about:
Wow, this is the life! Swimming with scenery!
Wow, open water is so much easier when you have a kayak to follow!
At the 5k mark: You know, 5k would have made a nice race distance...
Hmm, the incoming tide is pretty strong, and really cold...
I've really got to pee! Why can't I pee?
Didn't I specifically tell my kayaker to go around this bed of weeds?
Damn these jelly fish!
Left arm, right arm, left arm, right arm, ...
I have on occasion used a true "effortless" stroke, when I am doing a really long open water swim.Then are you focusing on SPL or SR when you swim OW?
I wasn't explicitly thinking about either.
Think about riding a bicycle, if you choose too low a gear you spin like crazy without getting anywhere, if you choose too high a gear it requires too much power from your muscles and they quickly fatique. There's an "optimal" gear that maximizes endurance.
Thinking about it another way, I was trying to find the fastest speed that I could swim but keep going indefinately (the threshold between aerobic and anaerobic swimming?).
Other things I was thinking about:
Wow, this is the life! Swimming with scenery!
Wow, open water is so much easier when you have a kayak to follow!
At the 5k mark: You know, 5k would have made a nice race distance...
Hmm, the incoming tide is pretty strong, and really cold...
I've really got to pee! Why can't I pee?
Didn't I specifically tell my kayaker to go around this bed of weeds?
Damn these jelly fish!
Left arm, right arm, left arm, right arm, ...