Stroke Rate vs Stroke Length, which is more difficult?
Former Member
This topic may have been discussed in the past but a search gave too many hits. I am very interested by your comment and advices for the following real scenario. This is for kids but may be this could apply to masters. BTW, I am just a parent swimmer, very interested in swimming in general but unfortunately not a good enough swimmer.
Two age group swimmers (11-12 years old) coming from different swimming history have opposite swimming style:
Swimmer 1 (let's call the higher stroke rate swimmer) swims 50 meters freestyle, taking 60 strokes. Swimmer2 does it in 45 strokes, with a time 0.5 to 1 second slower.
In general, Swimmer1 beats Swimmer2 in all distances (freestyle and back). Including a 2000 meter freestyle test set, faster by about 20 seconds. In this particular 2000m, aside the time and stroke rate, Swimmer2 (slower stroke rate) did it with even splits while Swimmer1 positive splits toward the last 25% of the distance.
Q1. Assuming two swimmers have similar aerobic conditions, which one will have better margin of progression? More exactly, would it be "easier" for Swimmer1 to improve the technique or for Swimmer2 to improve the Stroke Rate?
Q2. What would you recommend to these swimmers to get better?
To these two swimmers, stroke rate seems to be the winning bet. Swimmer2 was taught with a focus on excellent technique (and indeed looks better in the water), but is confused as this skill doesn't translate into better performance.
Of course, we are talking about SL and SR relative to a context where the swimmers already know about swimming.
Thanks you in advance for your help.
Parents
Former Member
Although it is a very technical subject, it is an interesting issue. I used to swim with a hi SR and less SL. Now I apply front-quadrant freestyle and my SR decreased and SL increased. Overall, my speed is nearly the same, but I enjoy my swimming much more than before (but the gold medal goes someone else with hi SR).
When I watched Inge de Bruin or Terese Alshammer (sprinters in free and butterfly), their SR is very hi, nearly no hip rotation, no vertical forearm (they are world class swimmers). On the other hand, when I watch another sprinter Alexander Popov, I can not believe the long SL he has in that incredible speed in addition to vertical forearm and hip rotation). I do not think that there is an easy answer for that question.
I wish they would change the swimming contest rules. They shall give the medals according to the Swimming Golf Score. Being fast is not everything (but surely something).:D
Although it is a very technical subject, it is an interesting issue. I used to swim with a hi SR and less SL. Now I apply front-quadrant freestyle and my SR decreased and SL increased. Overall, my speed is nearly the same, but I enjoy my swimming much more than before (but the gold medal goes someone else with hi SR).
When I watched Inge de Bruin or Terese Alshammer (sprinters in free and butterfly), their SR is very hi, nearly no hip rotation, no vertical forearm (they are world class swimmers). On the other hand, when I watch another sprinter Alexander Popov, I can not believe the long SL he has in that incredible speed in addition to vertical forearm and hip rotation). I do not think that there is an easy answer for that question.
I wish they would change the swimming contest rules. They shall give the medals according to the Swimming Golf Score. Being fast is not everything (but surely something).:D