I am interested in knowing what swimming theory you use and why you use it. I hear much about Total Immersion and not just from this forum. I hear much about swimming high on the water slightly looking forward, and I hear much about people developing their own swimming theory best suited for them but using guidelines that help them maintain a technical stroke.
Given all these different theories, it is no wonder that swimmers new to the sport are confused as to whom to listen to.
I borrowed the TI book from a friend a year or so ago, and found several things I agreed with, but more that I didn’t. I am not close-minded, I just cannot find a reason to swim so low in the water with the head looking down. The rolling of the shoulders really concerned me and the fact that so much of the body is low-parallel to the water, this has to increase drag, especially on the shoulders. One thing I will say is most people who swim using TI have beautiful strokes. But, and there is a but, they just don’t swim fast. Maybe I have just been so isolated here on this island that I have not heard of any, but are there any Olympians using TI? Or, will the young-uns using it be our next generation?
There is a USMS club in Fort Worth who advocated TI. Sadly, now they are deconstructing all those methods because no matter what the workout and intensity, their swimmers’ speeds could never develop. I get to speak to many triathlete swimmers here every March. The Elite (professional) swimmers swim high on top of the water looking forward and they use hip rotation, not shoulder rolling. Many of the age-groupers in this event just don’t understand why they are not swimming faster using TI. Now, we all know that most of the triathletes who were swimmers first, and runners and bikers second, always fare better in the swim portion.
I have said this before and I will say it again, there is more than one way to swim. I swim higher on top of the water looking forward, about a yard or two and use hip rotation. The reason for this is picture a person throwing a rock that skims the lake. The rock is flying on top of the water and not in it, so it moves much faster until its momentum ceases. Now, I know people are not rocks, but the principle is founded. Swimming on top of the water generates power and the swimmer can truly feel it. I swim slightly “planed” outward and upward and skim over the water, not in it.
Nowadays, because I am older and carry more weight, I swim not quite as high on the water and this has evolved over the last ten years or so. So even though I started out swimming “high” on the water looking forward, my stroke has become my own personal one that suits me very well. I also want to mention that I am referring to only freestyle here even though with all of my backstroke days, I, again, swam rather “planed” upward because I could get more rotation on top of the water rather than “in” the water.
I am not trying to cause a brou-ha-ha. I am just curious about the swimming theories and why people select them. And after swimming with any specific theory, are you happy with it?
Donna
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Terry,
Both comments were very germane to the topic. The topic was Swimming Theories and in a discussion of this kind, many elements of swimming and its people need to be included to identify any and all correctness of a theory, the drills being done, the drills not being done, and the people teaching it.
I am happy that you encounter TI swimmers without knowing they are such, but it is obvious they know who you are: you are their leader, you are famous to them. In no way whatsoever would they ever cross you or challenge you.
The group of women who made the comments that TI's main teaching point was stroke development and little work on conditioning, got my attention. Their rudeness toward another person who, to them, did not look athletic, just emphasized the arrogance with which they had been taught. At least they found out they didn't do too well and, hopefully, they will put in the work necessary and perform better and create better sportsmanship in the future. I am disappointed that even today, adults needs to be taught sportsmanship. A coach can certainly help with this, a coach needs to be aware of this. No one likes a know-it-all; it leads to bad club harmony.
Now, with that said, this group of women, and I sat with them for several hours at a large table at the Mayan Princess in West Bay, had no clue that anything beyond stroke development was important. So, either they totally misunderstood their coach or heard what they wanted to hear, or the coach misinformed them. I have no way of knowing for sure what they understood or didn't. They only said conditioning was not necessary for TI.
I included the comments about these things because it seemed so faulty to me and negligent on the part of anyone who calls themself a coach. You and I know there is no such thing as a quick fix for anything. At least I hope you know this.
There are always people who either misunderstand instruction or make it up as they go along. I have no way of knowing for sure about the people I had the misfortune of sitting with. But maybe, just maybe, it is time to really have a talk with your coaches. They may not even be aware they are coming across differently than what you envision.
I have said about all I can on this.
Donna
Terry,
Both comments were very germane to the topic. The topic was Swimming Theories and in a discussion of this kind, many elements of swimming and its people need to be included to identify any and all correctness of a theory, the drills being done, the drills not being done, and the people teaching it.
I am happy that you encounter TI swimmers without knowing they are such, but it is obvious they know who you are: you are their leader, you are famous to them. In no way whatsoever would they ever cross you or challenge you.
The group of women who made the comments that TI's main teaching point was stroke development and little work on conditioning, got my attention. Their rudeness toward another person who, to them, did not look athletic, just emphasized the arrogance with which they had been taught. At least they found out they didn't do too well and, hopefully, they will put in the work necessary and perform better and create better sportsmanship in the future. I am disappointed that even today, adults needs to be taught sportsmanship. A coach can certainly help with this, a coach needs to be aware of this. No one likes a know-it-all; it leads to bad club harmony.
Now, with that said, this group of women, and I sat with them for several hours at a large table at the Mayan Princess in West Bay, had no clue that anything beyond stroke development was important. So, either they totally misunderstood their coach or heard what they wanted to hear, or the coach misinformed them. I have no way of knowing for sure what they understood or didn't. They only said conditioning was not necessary for TI.
I included the comments about these things because it seemed so faulty to me and negligent on the part of anyone who calls themself a coach. You and I know there is no such thing as a quick fix for anything. At least I hope you know this.
There are always people who either misunderstand instruction or make it up as they go along. I have no way of knowing for sure about the people I had the misfortune of sitting with. But maybe, just maybe, it is time to really have a talk with your coaches. They may not even be aware they are coming across differently than what you envision.
I have said about all I can on this.
Donna
