I am interested in knowing what swimming theory you use and why you use it. I hear much about Total Immersion and not just from this forum. I hear much about swimming high on the water slightly looking forward, and I hear much about people developing their own swimming theory best suited for them but using guidelines that help them maintain a technical stroke.
Given all these different theories, it is no wonder that swimmers new to the sport are confused as to whom to listen to.
I borrowed the TI book from a friend a year or so ago, and found several things I agreed with, but more that I didn’t. I am not close-minded, I just cannot find a reason to swim so low in the water with the head looking down. The rolling of the shoulders really concerned me and the fact that so much of the body is low-parallel to the water, this has to increase drag, especially on the shoulders. One thing I will say is most people who swim using TI have beautiful strokes. But, and there is a but, they just don’t swim fast. Maybe I have just been so isolated here on this island that I have not heard of any, but are there any Olympians using TI? Or, will the young-uns using it be our next generation?
There is a USMS club in Fort Worth who advocated TI. Sadly, now they are deconstructing all those methods because no matter what the workout and intensity, their swimmers’ speeds could never develop. I get to speak to many triathlete swimmers here every March. The Elite (professional) swimmers swim high on top of the water looking forward and they use hip rotation, not shoulder rolling. Many of the age-groupers in this event just don’t understand why they are not swimming faster using TI. Now, we all know that most of the triathletes who were swimmers first, and runners and bikers second, always fare better in the swim portion.
I have said this before and I will say it again, there is more than one way to swim. I swim higher on top of the water looking forward, about a yard or two and use hip rotation. The reason for this is picture a person throwing a rock that skims the lake. The rock is flying on top of the water and not in it, so it moves much faster until its momentum ceases. Now, I know people are not rocks, but the principle is founded. Swimming on top of the water generates power and the swimmer can truly feel it. I swim slightly “planed” outward and upward and skim over the water, not in it.
Nowadays, because I am older and carry more weight, I swim not quite as high on the water and this has evolved over the last ten years or so. So even though I started out swimming “high” on the water looking forward, my stroke has become my own personal one that suits me very well. I also want to mention that I am referring to only freestyle here even though with all of my backstroke days, I, again, swam rather “planed” upward because I could get more rotation on top of the water rather than “in” the water.
I am not trying to cause a brou-ha-ha. I am just curious about the swimming theories and why people select them. And after swimming with any specific theory, are you happy with it?
Donna
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Terry,
I am really glad you came back to offer an explanation to the words that may have bothered some people. People are complex and those of us who believe in something deeply, can become very animated and defensive. I, in no way, am attacking the method of TI swimming because I hear too many wonderful things about it. I may question this or that, but it does not mean I am against it. What I stand for is this: swimming. Period.
I know you find it a stretch to believe my "story" about the arrogance of this group of women TI swimmers, but arrogance is in a lot of people, TI or not. What I reported was very true. Many times, woman can be very petty. Some can view a person's looks vs what they truly stand for. But this particular group of women needed a class in charm. It was missing. They thought because they had been swimming TI, that they were going to fare well and they just didn't; not last year anyway. It worried me that they may have been sold a set of goods without putting in the effort. I think this is a good thing; learning humility is a part of participating in a sport. Their disappointment with their performances truly made me sad because I have been there; you know, high expectations and not being able to deliver. More times than not.
And I didn't change the thread, I was relaying a story that I felt important in that people need to train hard as well as learn stroke development. And I was a tad worried that it was possible that many TI coaches were selling TI as a stroke development without the work of yardage. And many, many people are succeeding with TI's methods and I won't argue with that. There are many avenues to get us in a place of greatness.
You are a fine man and have helped many. You have spent your life in the swimming world, as I have, so we really are on the same page here. Any criticism needs to be taken as constructive criticism, please.
Donna
Terry,
I am really glad you came back to offer an explanation to the words that may have bothered some people. People are complex and those of us who believe in something deeply, can become very animated and defensive. I, in no way, am attacking the method of TI swimming because I hear too many wonderful things about it. I may question this or that, but it does not mean I am against it. What I stand for is this: swimming. Period.
I know you find it a stretch to believe my "story" about the arrogance of this group of women TI swimmers, but arrogance is in a lot of people, TI or not. What I reported was very true. Many times, woman can be very petty. Some can view a person's looks vs what they truly stand for. But this particular group of women needed a class in charm. It was missing. They thought because they had been swimming TI, that they were going to fare well and they just didn't; not last year anyway. It worried me that they may have been sold a set of goods without putting in the effort. I think this is a good thing; learning humility is a part of participating in a sport. Their disappointment with their performances truly made me sad because I have been there; you know, high expectations and not being able to deliver. More times than not.
And I didn't change the thread, I was relaying a story that I felt important in that people need to train hard as well as learn stroke development. And I was a tad worried that it was possible that many TI coaches were selling TI as a stroke development without the work of yardage. And many, many people are succeeding with TI's methods and I won't argue with that. There are many avenues to get us in a place of greatness.
You are a fine man and have helped many. You have spent your life in the swimming world, as I have, so we really are on the same page here. Any criticism needs to be taken as constructive criticism, please.
Donna
