shoulder clicking

I think that everyone’s case is different. As humans we are all made up differently and that's what makes us great. I too have clicking and pain in my shoulders. I have always been a butterflyer. I have had my stroke technique filmed and dissected at both the high school and collegiate level. My technique has always received high marks with no real need for improvement. I also used to concentrate on strengthening my shoulder and leg muscles all the time. So this just shows that even if you do everything right you can still develop problems. I suggest not overdoing and consult a physician for a diagnosis. My what an open-minded empathetic fellow you are! Thanks! Sounds like we have similar pasts and anatomies. No worries, I have seen docs, etc., supposed to get an MRI soon. I've cut back on yardage lately and my shoulder feels better, which of course is now only delaying the MRI, but I shall be careful. So are you eating that Bocci pizza and Ted's hot dogs up there in Buffalo? Best pizza I ever had!

Hmm.. I still think "mitigating other causative factors better than anything you can do" is different from the position that technique is the "primary" or "pre-eminent" causative factor. The first goes to mitigation after causation, the second goes to initial proximate causation. I think perhaps, consistent with TI principles of mindfulness, you might not want to let the professed "mindset" get too "set." Why, I myself, tried to do that Michael Phelps breathing every stroke fly for awhile as an experiment, but I was just slower that way. And remember, despite all my teasing, I did try butterfrog! :yawn: quote] I think that everyone’s case is different. As humans we are all made up differently and that's what makes us great. I too have clicking and pain in my shoulders. I have always been a butterflyer. I have had my stroke technique filmed and dissected at both the high school and collegiate level. My technique has always received high marks with no real need for improvement. I also used to concentrate on strengthening my shoulder and leg muscles all the time. So this just shows that even if you do everything right you can still develop problems. I suggest not overdoing and consult a physician for a diagnosis.

JBDrags, I so agree with what you are saying; that injuries are caused not just from poor technique, but may be caused by anatomy and a thousand of other things including just way too many years of rotation that causes the joints to breakdown in many swimmers, as well as discus throwers, baseball pitchers and the list goes on and on. For anyone to state that it is one thing, or one thing plus one more thing, is, well, outrageous. If the proof is in the pudding, then NO ONE knows for sure, even an othopedic surgeon. And each of us can speak with a hundred people who will agree with our theories on this. Be wary of people's opinions; find what works for YOU. Now, if a new person to swimming can find a way to offset injuries from technique, then that person should seek that out. But what is that? Many say they have the "way", but do they? Again, no one knows for certain until much later down the road even though they profess to it. I always am leary of a person who seems to "know it all." I don't think there is such a thing. If I were a brand new swimmer, I would listen to people who have been swimming for a long time with an injury record less than others. And, not everyone who swims for a long time has injuries, thank the Lord here. Take your own stand, find your own stroke and pace, and enjoy swimming; leave the injuries to those of us who have experienced them. Don't even fret about them if you are working on technqiue, whatever technique you decide to do. Many people use many different techniques and enjoy a life of swimming. Swim for life; you will later on be able to pass along your ideas to a "new swimmer." And this is where Pay It Forward comes into play. Donna

Hey, there, Grinch, Three people, two from this forum, have it on their calendars and they will do a relay over to Utila. I'm doing my own separate swim at the same time and my shoulders will click all the way over there. True training for this starts in February; giving me plenty of time, I hope!!! Wanna join in the fun? It's only 18 miles or so, a true slow-motion sightseeing swim tour of the waters of the western Caribbean.:D Donna I ever use only 18 miles and swimming in the same sentence, please send me to the nearest mental hospital or psych ward ...

Hey, there, Grinch, Three people, two from this forum, have it on their calendars and they will do a relay over to Utila. I'm doing my own separate swim at the same time and my shoulders will click all the way over there. True training for this starts in February; giving me plenty of time, I hope!!! Wanna join in the fun? It's only 18 miles or so, a true slow-motion sightseeing swim tour of the waters of the western Caribbean.:D Donna

Heather, :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: The way I figure it, I have short blonde/gray hair right now because of my age, but after this swim, I'll probably have an entirely gray head of hair from possible "incidents" along the way; you know, the Fright Factor. So, I will no longer have to have highlights put in to keep it more blonde than gray. 18 miles and 9 hours later, voila, I'll finally be one of those older women we call the Blue Rinse Specials. Donna

Swim for life; you will later on be able to pass along your ideas to a "new swimmer." And this is where Pay It Forward comes into play.Donna Looks like you're paying it forward. Good luck training for that long OW swim. How many folks are doing that?

Well now, there's a thought, writing a book. I already have written a book but it's not about swimming and it sells really well; has been for 5 years now. But maybe a book on Open Water, specifically for people over 50 or 60 who have had multiple injuries. I am sure I am not the only one; sometimes I think I can actually hear shoulder clicking when I swim with others and their clicking is louder than mine.:rofl: I guess I'll see how this article goes first that a person from a Swim Magazine has contacted me about. They want to do an article on my training for the Utila swim, along with other information that may help others. I had to be very truthful and let people know that drinking alcohol needs to stop (boo-hoo) because it does cause extreme dehydration which causes lower leg and foot cramps, even though it does help shoulder pain :rofl:(but I didn't put that part in there).:rofl: Donna

Well now, there's a thought, writing a book. I already have written a book but it's not about swimming and it sells really well; has been for 5 years now. But maybe a book on Open Water, specifically for people over 50 or 60 who have had multiple injuries. I am sure I am not the only one; sometimes I think I can actually hear shoulder clicking when I swim with others and their clicking is louder than mine.:rofl: I guess I'll see how this article goes first that a person from a Swim Magazine has contacted me about. They want to do an article on my training for the Utila swim, along with other information that may help others. I had to be very truthful and let people know that drinking alcohol needs to stop (boo-hoo) because it does cause extreme dehydration which causes lower leg and foot cramps, even though it does help shoulder pain :rofl:(but I didn't put that part in there).:rofl: Donna Wow. I was actually just kidding around. When does the article about Utila come out? Is it in the USMS magazine or something else? I guess those rum and cokes and MonkeyLaLas are history, huh?

Grinch, Don't know when it comes out, I just sent off all my information. Let the writer get through all the information. I believe it is USMS, and maybe USA swimming also. No details yet. I am sure it will just be an article with excerpts from some marathon swimming folks; they just decided to include me and am not sure why; maybe an older woman's point of view and the fact that 18 miles is a long swim for an almost "senior citizen.":rofl: Donna