shoulder clicking

I didn't say you had accepted anything. I said the swimming culture is far too accepting of the prevalence of shoulder injury. I said it is the primary causative factor. Are you suggesting there is some other factor that plays a larger role? Pretty good word smithing for a non-lawyer, KaizenSwimmer. I think we are actually not that far apart on our views, despite the fact that you seemed to imply I was part of that "culture" you denigrated. (I can't be. As you see, I'm clearly not the "accepting" type.) Here's what I said: "I completely agree that, in many cases, poor technique is the culprit. But I don't think it's true in all cases." Here's what you said: Improper technique is the "primary causative" factor. So our views are actually fairly similar. It's a matter of degree. To sum up, I still stand by what I said in my prior posts: I think shoulder injuries can be caused by many things, including improper technique, anatomy, volume, overuse, failure to strengthen the rotator cuff muscles,weight lifting, etc. I just don't buy that proper technique will eliminate all shoulder problems. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say "most" either. I'm not sure what is the largest causative factor. I'd need to look at the research on that one before I do the analysis. But the anecdotal evidence on volume, even from Lindsay, suggests that volume is not a non-factor. It may be a quite significant one.

I didn't say you had accepted anything. I said the swimming culture is far too accepting of the prevalence of shoulder injury. I said it is the primary causative factor. Are you suggesting there is some other factor that plays a larger role? Pretty good word smithing for a non-lawyer, KaizenSwimmer. I think we are actually not that far apart on our views, despite the fact that you seemed to imply I was part of that "culture" you denigrated. (I can't be. As you see, I'm clearly not the "accepting" type.) Here's what I said: "I completely agree that, in many cases, poor technique is the culprit. But I don't think it's true in all cases." Here's what you said: Improper technique is the "primary causative" factor. So our views are actually fairly similar. It's a matter of degree. To sum up, I still stand by what I said in my prior posts: I think shoulder injuries can be caused by many things, including improper technique, anatomy, volume, overuse, failure to strengthen the rotator cuff muscles,weight lifting, etc. I just don't buy that proper technique will eliminate all shoulder problems. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say "most" either. I'm not sure what is the largest causative factor. I'd need to look at the research on that one before I do the analysis. But the anecdotal evidence on volume, even from Lindsay, suggests that volume is not a non-factor. It may be a quite significant one.