Hi friends,
I am trying to get information from any of you who have done some very long ocean swims. I have one planned that will be 18 miles. I am reasonably confident at the training required, although any suggestions for that would also be welcome.
I plan on swimming upwards of 40 to 50 miles a week for it, regularly. I also plan on a long swim once a month (10 miles) and two weeks for recovery from that distance until my body understands that this will be a regular thing. On the 10 mile swims, one way will be with current, the return will be against it (can't wait!!).
My biggest question comes to the tapering for the 18 miler. How soon, what distances, etc., etc.
Any advice, other than seeing a mental counselor for my "temporary insanity" at choosing something like this at age 60, would be helpful!!!
Donna
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The speed duration curve concept is new to me and impressive. Makes perfect sense but just a different, perhaps more compelling, way to explain what I attempt to do in training. Is that explained in more detail somewhere on-line? I'm not sure. I don't think so, at least not yet.
The reason I used this explanation is that the event involved in this thread is so far on the right hand side of the speed/duration curve that I felt I could use it even without being able to back my statement with actual data.
This concept is growing as quickly as a teenager in the cycling world nowdays, thanks to the use of power meters which allow us to measure the actual work done with great precision.
In the next couple of years, my intent is to adapt these concepts to swimming. I contacted my former boss few days ago about this particular topic. He happens to be a world renown matematicien. In the '80s, he gave birth to a great little algorhitm called the SDI (for Sprint-Distance-Index). That is coeficient used to predict swimming performances over any distance, and to calibrate training. Just give me few PBs over few durations and I can predict what you should be doing at all other pool distances.
I want to build on top of what he had previously done, in order to make the speed/duration (called power/duration in cycling) concept to swimmers.
They make life interesting. Absolutely
Still, the shorter races seem to improve my sense of sharpness and strength for the points in longer races where I may need a bit more speed. I agree with that too. After all, as you know, at one point the "pool torpedo" swimmers literally took over the OW long distance world scene, with very few spots left to pure OW swimmers. And that's not over. Wait until the 10k becomes an official Olympic event. I'd probably bet my shirt on Hackett.
...Then we design training tasks that simulate those experiences and learn to perform those tasks progressively better....
...After all, one can never really feel lactates being buffered or capillarization occuring....
...Training to develop specific racing skills and strategies is always stimulating and engaging. This is very inspiring. Meaningful as opposed to meaningless swimming. Coaching is an Art as much as (and probably even more than) a cold science.
Cheers
The speed duration curve concept is new to me and impressive. Makes perfect sense but just a different, perhaps more compelling, way to explain what I attempt to do in training. Is that explained in more detail somewhere on-line? I'm not sure. I don't think so, at least not yet.
The reason I used this explanation is that the event involved in this thread is so far on the right hand side of the speed/duration curve that I felt I could use it even without being able to back my statement with actual data.
This concept is growing as quickly as a teenager in the cycling world nowdays, thanks to the use of power meters which allow us to measure the actual work done with great precision.
In the next couple of years, my intent is to adapt these concepts to swimming. I contacted my former boss few days ago about this particular topic. He happens to be a world renown matematicien. In the '80s, he gave birth to a great little algorhitm called the SDI (for Sprint-Distance-Index). That is coeficient used to predict swimming performances over any distance, and to calibrate training. Just give me few PBs over few durations and I can predict what you should be doing at all other pool distances.
I want to build on top of what he had previously done, in order to make the speed/duration (called power/duration in cycling) concept to swimmers.
They make life interesting. Absolutely
Still, the shorter races seem to improve my sense of sharpness and strength for the points in longer races where I may need a bit more speed. I agree with that too. After all, as you know, at one point the "pool torpedo" swimmers literally took over the OW long distance world scene, with very few spots left to pure OW swimmers. And that's not over. Wait until the 10k becomes an official Olympic event. I'd probably bet my shirt on Hackett.
...Then we design training tasks that simulate those experiences and learn to perform those tasks progressively better....
...After all, one can never really feel lactates being buffered or capillarization occuring....
...Training to develop specific racing skills and strategies is always stimulating and engaging. This is very inspiring. Meaningful as opposed to meaningless swimming. Coaching is an Art as much as (and probably even more than) a cold science.
Cheers
