The first loss of a master is memory, the second...I forgot. I probably have already asked this question, but here goes:
Does anyone bring their arm straight down and out after the grab? I am talking no sculling, no lateral movement, just bringing the arm straight parallel with the line maintaining the elbow high position. This would be to avoid crossing the midline with your forearm. Even though I breathe on the left, I still rotate fully to the right (a learned and trained and voluntary movement), but even so my right forearm tends to the middle, while my left arm has less pull and is erractic. When I learned the crawl it was from watching Tarzan movies, later when I was 16 and in a USA high school they taught the S shaped movement or the straight down and back. In those days the breathing was to one side. Last question: aside from timing both methods, what are your preferences on the long dolphin versus "less dolphin" emerging sooner method of starts and turns on a 50 meter short course freestyle race? Thanks, billy fanstone
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The hand moves to differrent positions and angles throughout the stroke without any thought in everyone's stroke. As Cheney says it's a no brainer.
All we have to do is hold on and exert force.
OK Solar. I will do the particular sculling drill that you tell me is your favorite. I will also make my son the triathlete do it. I'm glad you don't like the one I described above because I dislike it intensely. I'm usually on my stomach going very slowly if I bother to scull. I need more help on free than back or fly.
Do you like to eat?
My husband says that's all I do. :banana: It also irritates him that I refuse to eat anything that says "fat free" on it. :thhbbb: I do force myself to cook because all the nutty endurance athletes in my house are always friggin' hungry. But with the nutty sports schedules in my house, I don't have much time to really enjoy cooking. So no one's getting any gourmet sauce, only quick sauce.
OK Solar. I will do the particular sculling drill that you tell me is your favorite. I will also make my son the triathlete do it. I'm glad you don't like the one I described above because I dislike it intensely. I'm usually on my stomach going very slowly if I bother to scull. I need more help on free than back or fly. Hold on for a while. I'll try to find footage so everything be more understandable.
Can you tell me a bit more about this shoulder pain you get? Does the mere thought breaststroke pulling (with a pull buoy) is sufficient to trigger this pain?
Because I'd say that among all pulling actions, breaststroke is probably the one that uses sculling the most. And some cool sculling drills use the same angles as the breaststroke wide pulling.
Also, one thing about sculling is that you do it to improve sensations, but if you don't transfert those sensations in the full stroke immediately, it doesn't pay off as much. Therefore a set (with a pull buoy for instance) can be alternating 50m sculling / 50m freestyle (count the number of strokes).
But yeah. Get back with your stroke count. Tell me about your pains in the shoulder. Let me find good demos or at least good images, and we shall begin after that.
Because I'd say that among all pulling actions, breaststroke is probably the one that uses sculling the most.
I have the kids do a few drills of feet first... in a lounge chair position.... with a sculling motion. (Kind of like floating on their backs with toes out in front of them.)
Great way to develop a feel for the water and have lots of laughs at the same time.
Which drill, Solar Energy? Sculling? Forward? Backward? What exactly does it help with? The catch? The pull? I like drills usually, I'm just never sure what I'm really accomplishing when I'm sculling other than having a nice little break.
Solar:
You are a doll. It would be nice to actually know what I am supposed to be doing with sculling. Maybe my lack of knowledge triggers the reluctance. (what does being a doll mean?)
Comparing sculling with one every day life activity, cooking, I'd say that sculling is a sauce. It doesn't target any specific mechanical aspect you know, it's really a feeling type of sauce. So just like sauce, you might not want to eat just that. You might not want to swim 1000m of sculling (though in some instances especially for triathletes I probably did come close to prescribing that).
You might want to use it here and there, mixed with some other stuff. After a while, you'll learn to enjoy the accute feeling for water you get immediately after having done 50 or 100y of scullings. We're allowed to prefer a sauce over an other, and prefer a type of sauce for a type of dish.
I took note about your injury record and will process your request as soon as I can. I'll be back baby ! (A.Schwarzenegger; 1990)
I have the kids do a few drills of feet first... in a lounge chair position.... with a sculling motion. (Kind of like floating on their backs with toes out in front of them.)
Great way to develop a feel for the water and have lots of laughs at the same time. Yeah tons of fun with kids.
I particullary like to use the synchronize swimming type of scull, on the back, still, trying to raise one leg outside the water.
Fun with kids and even more with older master swimmers. Seeing those big hairy legs barely peeping out of the water while oncle drinks a pint by the nose :D
I donno, I never get tired :D
Sculling can be fun. At least fun for the coach :D
