new at butterfly, quick question on workouts

I'm new at the butterfly stroke and struggle to do 6x33yds with a freestyle return(100 ft pool) in one workout. I do these with a full recovery (3 min). After that I'll have to switch to some other stroke because I'm pretty much shot. What are typical workouts and distances that strong flyers do that I should try to build to? I'm thinking that 10x50's would be a great goal?
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  • Mollie: Sorry. Thought you were comparing me to an 8 year old. I don't usually kick with fins unless it's a fin kick set. I'm definitely not lazy. I had thoughts of puking last night. I usually do fly with fins unless it's before a meet. My experience is that, when I get too enthusiastic and do lots of fly without fins, I really suffer. I never use fins for breaststroke. :) But a breaststroker friend of mine told me that they are coming out with breaststroke fins. Then breaststrokers can get ragged on when they become fin addicts. :laugh2: Peter: I may use "punch your lights out" one day. They might believe me. Since I'm always doing weights for my shoulders, I have pretty toned arms -- even though I use fins! :lolup: SwimmerLisa: I think you're right. They don't really believe you're in pain. Or they don't realize how painful the pain can be. (They say, we're sore too.) Or they don't realize the injury can be chronic and require constant mangement. Everyone thinks it should vanish immediately if you're getting "proper" treatment and doing your home care. But, unfortunately, as you know, you can try to do everything right, but the pain can still come back. I'm sure there are more stroke modifications that would help (I'm not TI perfect, for sure), but I still think those are easier said than done. And I'm tired of hearing people say, "Why don't you just have surgery?" I don't have a tear, that's why. And I don't have a wife. And I can't stand not to exercise. Thanks guys. Leslie
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  • Mollie: Sorry. Thought you were comparing me to an 8 year old. I don't usually kick with fins unless it's a fin kick set. I'm definitely not lazy. I had thoughts of puking last night. I usually do fly with fins unless it's before a meet. My experience is that, when I get too enthusiastic and do lots of fly without fins, I really suffer. I never use fins for breaststroke. :) But a breaststroker friend of mine told me that they are coming out with breaststroke fins. Then breaststrokers can get ragged on when they become fin addicts. :laugh2: Peter: I may use "punch your lights out" one day. They might believe me. Since I'm always doing weights for my shoulders, I have pretty toned arms -- even though I use fins! :lolup: SwimmerLisa: I think you're right. They don't really believe you're in pain. Or they don't realize how painful the pain can be. (They say, we're sore too.) Or they don't realize the injury can be chronic and require constant mangement. Everyone thinks it should vanish immediately if you're getting "proper" treatment and doing your home care. But, unfortunately, as you know, you can try to do everything right, but the pain can still come back. I'm sure there are more stroke modifications that would help (I'm not TI perfect, for sure), but I still think those are easier said than done. And I'm tired of hearing people say, "Why don't you just have surgery?" I don't have a tear, that's why. And I don't have a wife. And I can't stand not to exercise. Thanks guys. Leslie
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