USS times should count in USMS

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Why is it that Masters level swimmers who participate in USS sanctioned meets under a separate USS registration can't have their times automatically qualify for USMS rankings and USMS National records? What is the reason for this separation? The rules with USMS and USS seem parallel enough to allow USS swims to qualify under USMS ranking and records. Do we care if elite older swimmers in their 30's (say Gary Hall Jr.) effectively end up owning the USMS national record by default? Is USMS afraid of merging to closely with USS? Why wouldn't USMS want to recognize the true best performance by and old man/women in the pool regardless of whether their card said USS or USMS on it? John Smith
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    Leo, If you are correct, then you make it sound more like a mere right for a dues paying club member who excelled than a true or real national record or ranking for a particular age group. I'm realy not seeing any legitimate reason why older USS swimmers or master swimmers that cross over and register with USS shouldn't be able to swim in USS meets and submit times that are eligible for USMS records or rankings. ============================================ Racer X, I'm not buying your assumption that 25-35 year olds won't bother showing to USMS meets if they can swim USS and qualify for records and rankings in USS meets. Even if they did, there aren't that many elite cross over people as a percentage of the total dues paying USMS members to make a dent in the budget. John Smith
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    Leo, If you are correct, then you make it sound more like a mere right for a dues paying club member who excelled than a true or real national record or ranking for a particular age group. I'm realy not seeing any legitimate reason why older USS swimmers or master swimmers that cross over and register with USS shouldn't be able to swim in USS meets and submit times that are eligible for USMS records or rankings. ============================================ Racer X, I'm not buying your assumption that 25-35 year olds won't bother showing to USMS meets if they can swim USS and qualify for records and rankings in USS meets. Even if they did, there aren't that many elite cross over people as a percentage of the total dues paying USMS members to make a dent in the budget. John Smith
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