USS times should count in USMS

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Why is it that Masters level swimmers who participate in USS sanctioned meets under a separate USS registration can't have their times automatically qualify for USMS rankings and USMS National records? What is the reason for this separation? The rules with USMS and USS seem parallel enough to allow USS swims to qualify under USMS ranking and records. Do we care if elite older swimmers in their 30's (say Gary Hall Jr.) effectively end up owning the USMS national record by default? Is USMS afraid of merging to closely with USS? Why wouldn't USMS want to recognize the true best performance by and old man/women in the pool regardless of whether their card said USS or USMS on it? John Smith
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    Leo, An example if I may- The USMS record for the Men's LCM 50 free in the 30-34 age group is listed on this site as Robert Peel 22.8 3/12/96. At this year's Pan Pacs, Gary Hall Jr, a USMS member, swam a 22.46 at age 32. Does Rob lose his 10 year old record as the world's fastest masters swimmer to someone who did not achieve this time at a masters swim meet? Seems like kind of a big deal. PS The record listed on this site for the Men's 25-29 50 free scy is incorrect. Rob Peel's 19.83 was beaten by Sabir Muhammed at the 2004 USMS Nationals with a 19.44.
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    Leo, An example if I may- The USMS record for the Men's LCM 50 free in the 30-34 age group is listed on this site as Robert Peel 22.8 3/12/96. At this year's Pan Pacs, Gary Hall Jr, a USMS member, swam a 22.46 at age 32. Does Rob lose his 10 year old record as the world's fastest masters swimmer to someone who did not achieve this time at a masters swim meet? Seems like kind of a big deal. PS The record listed on this site for the Men's 25-29 50 free scy is incorrect. Rob Peel's 19.83 was beaten by Sabir Muhammed at the 2004 USMS Nationals with a 19.44.
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