Head-up dolphin kick drill

We want the same thing here. We teach this via what we call a "sneaky" breath. Chin stays in water. You try to breathe in such a way that it's difficult for an observer to see the breath. Would you happen to have a clip? I begin surfacing for the breath as soon as my hands begin to engage, complete the breath at around the moment my upper chest comes over the hands and am returning my head to the water as the hands exit. Yeah that makes sense. After so many years coaching triathlon I guess my butterfly (my specialty) is a bit rusty thanks. But the bottom line remains though. Purpose of this drill is to improve balance without the help of the hands. I use a very simple but efficient trick to help this as well. I ask the swimmers to look at where they're about to breathe, before actually breathing. This simple head motion (while looking at the surface) seem to have a very beneficial effect. That triggers the upward ondulation by itself without having to use pulling power. The hands never reach the place they would be in this drill - i.e. elbows straight and hands trailing by the hips. At the moment the head is most "up" (i.e. moment of inhale) the hands are pretty much in line with the shoulders. So having the hands behind you with head up would create a position that one would hope never to see in whole-stroke. I think you exagerate a bit here, probably to make the "heads-up" drill sound like useless. You exagerate by timing the head movement relative to the whole stroke a bit too early. Though I agree on the fact that this motion should be initiated fairly early, I'd say that the head remains outside the water for a while, certainly long enough for the hands to reach a position that is further (in the cycle) than what you describe.

We want the same thing here. We teach this via what we call a "sneaky" breath. Chin stays in water. You try to breathe in such a way that it's difficult for an observer to see the breath. Would you happen to have a clip? I begin surfacing for the breath as soon as my hands begin to engage, complete the breath at around the moment my upper chest comes over the hands and am returning my head to the water as the hands exit. Yeah that makes sense. After so many years coaching triathlon I guess my butterfly (my specialty) is a bit rusty thanks. But the bottom line remains though. Purpose of this drill is to improve balance without the help of the hands. I use a very simple but efficient trick to help this as well. I ask the swimmers to look at where they're about to breathe, before actually breathing. This simple head motion (while looking at the surface) seem to have a very beneficial effect. That triggers the upward ondulation by itself without having to use pulling power. The hands never reach the place they would be in this drill - i.e. elbows straight and hands trailing by the hips. At the moment the head is most "up" (i.e. moment of inhale) the hands are pretty much in line with the shoulders. So having the hands behind you with head up would create a position that one would hope never to see in whole-stroke. I think you exagerate a bit here, probably to make the "heads-up" drill sound like useless. You exagerate by timing the head movement relative to the whole stroke a bit too early. Though I agree on the fact that this motion should be initiated fairly early, I'd say that the head remains outside the water for a while, certainly long enough for the hands to reach a position that is further (in the cycle) than what you describe.