Freestyle Stroke Question

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I am trying to improve my freestyle. I have been working on balance,timing,counting strokes. When watching videos of world classs swimmers, I noticed that on swimmers like Michael Phelps and Ryan Lochte, that their arm in the water is fully extended(straight) and angled below the corresponding shoulder. It looks as though the arm that is about to catch the water is angled to where it points towards where the pool wall and pool bottom meet. Not pointed directly down but not pointed directly straight out from the shoulder to the wall. It seems like most of the best freestylers have their extended arms pointed below their bottom shoulder at an angle before the pull. This also appears to only happen once they have finished the rotation to that side. Has anyone else noticed this or am I way off? Thanks, David
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    And yes the reason why I continue to believe in core body rotation generated power is the one you just mentionned : Water does have enough resistance to have solid anchor points in it. originally posted by Solar Energy I will say that this seems to be the most logical conclusion made here (along with leonard Jansen, Terry, and others). I personally feel that wieght shifting in swimming is very similar to weight shifting on land ....just not as pronounced in many ways b/c liquid does not supply the same level of resistance as solid ground does....None-the-less I really think Terry is onto something here and its NOT just an illusionary "feeling"....often the reason there's a feeling (i.e. sensual clues from actually experimenting with these things in the water) is b/c there is an actual physical principal behind that sensation. Of course this is only my two cents worth (take it or leave t of course). Kirk where are you when we need you?? Why don't you use your engineering background to chime in on this debate here? Newmastersswimmer
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    And yes the reason why I continue to believe in core body rotation generated power is the one you just mentionned : Water does have enough resistance to have solid anchor points in it. originally posted by Solar Energy I will say that this seems to be the most logical conclusion made here (along with leonard Jansen, Terry, and others). I personally feel that wieght shifting in swimming is very similar to weight shifting on land ....just not as pronounced in many ways b/c liquid does not supply the same level of resistance as solid ground does....None-the-less I really think Terry is onto something here and its NOT just an illusionary "feeling"....often the reason there's a feeling (i.e. sensual clues from actually experimenting with these things in the water) is b/c there is an actual physical principal behind that sensation. Of course this is only my two cents worth (take it or leave t of course). Kirk where are you when we need you?? Why don't you use your engineering background to chime in on this debate here? Newmastersswimmer
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