curious about the breakdown between introverts and extroverts who swim, and what they swim. are distance folks more inclined to be introverted, and sprinters, the opposite?
Originally posted by Peter Cruise
In historical analysis it is a generally accepted truism that when there is a military draft that those children who are disadvantaged by their circumstances are less likely to be able to escape being conscripted.
Ironic that the ADHD/ADD, etc kids that couldn't get out of WWII are commonly called the Greatest Generation whereas you seem to draw a totally different conclusion about the Vietnam era draftees.
First of all the Vietnam was far more controversial than WWII, it was also a totall different war ... different style of fighting, different landscaping lead to a VERY different war ...
ALSO, on the ADHD front try living with it ... a lot of times there are corresponding social issues that come up with it ... that is not say every kid should get drugged or even that every ADHD kid should be drugged, but that if drugs along with behavior modification and education helps the kid then why not? Drugs alone are not effective. Drugs need to be accompanied by behavior modification AND education.
Originally posted by Peter Cruise
Go back to your original flippant post (or is this a redundancy?) asking where these kids were thirty years ago, then read my posting again; you may see my point which is very basic and seeking to answer your question (perhaps a mistake being sucked in at all).
That would require me being able to remember what I say from post to post and keep a coherent thought. Does that mean I need ADHD medication? Beer seems to be doing the trick, no pills should be required - AMERICAN BEER, Cruise.
Originally posted by chickadee
I have a somewhat related question about the psychological make up of swimmers. Did anyone read about the dozens of Mt Everst climbers who walked up and down past the British mountaineer who was in distress and was left to die? I wonder if any swimmer, introvert or extrovert or a combination of the two, would ever watch another person in distress in the water and not attempt to assist in one way or another. I can't imagine taking any delight in a sport that puts ones personal goals above the safety of another.
For the record, I like sprints and see myself as an extrovert.
I read the same story and it is my opinion that those climbers are a waste of oxygen. They are so determined to reach their goal that another human being's life is not worthy of consideration. A truly sad state of affairs. It is my hope that they did not reach their goal. I actually have some other hopes as well but I won't share those here.
Originally posted by dorothyrde
Matt, I think it is easy to blame bad parenting, and some of that is there. But I have learned not to judge, because the minute you do, your child does something that makes you look like a bad parent!
You are correct and I have found myself in the same exact situation you speak of. However, sometimes a complete lack of parental involvement or parental concern needs to be pointed out and I have no shame or reservation in judging those people.
I go away for a day and find my last name being besmirched by the activities of my oh-so-distant hyperkinetic over-credulous cousin. Ah well, that is not the point I wanted to make- the Geek asked where were these kids 30 years ago? A lot of these kids went to Vietnam as they weren't able to attain the academic levels then that they are now (with proper diagnosis & treatment) nor were they 'sick' to attain the coveted 4F status accorded to many of the less academic children of rich parents.
Mattson, im new to forum sites and saw the poll option. i didn't see how to make it happen, though. a poll would have been better, i agree. could you tell me how that's done? or re-thread this in poll format? thank you :)
Geek-o, that isn't war analysis, just a plausible answer to your question. By the way, there were and are tens of thousands of Americans up here who exercised the 'third option' of dodging the draft. I make no judgement on them or on those who stayed to fight, that is an American issue. In historical analysis it is a generally accepted truism that when there is a military draft that those children who are disadvantaged by their circumstances are less likely to be able to escape being conscripted.
I don't know about that. My daughter is ADHD inattentive, no hyperactivity, and I think that is one reason why she likes the distance. She has a counter, she gets a song in her mind and thinks of all the things that run around in her head. She likes the idea of just swimming and she is not one to concentrate on things. Just paddles along in her element.
I could see the hyper active type being good for sprinting though.
