I propose a rule change for the championship committee. If someone misses their heat at USMS Nationals due to general stupidity and day dreaming, they should be allowed to swim in an open lane in that same event.
John Smith
(2006 psuedo champion, 50yd back)
Bill, the missed event rule is on the Championship meet information. The rules Meg are citing about relays are from the rule book, and not on the Championship information. When looking at different situations, officials look at meet how the meet information is worded, and the rule book is worded. Those are the two sources that govern how to make rulings.
I am the opposite of Meg. The meets I run generally have about 400 swimmers. Since I am required to send the final results to Illinois Swimming the Monday after the meet, I prefer to make sure changes such as relay names happen as we are processing the information. So when I print the results, what is posted on the wall is results is as accurate as I can get it. Any inaccuracies(such as Suzy jumping into Betty's lane, so Betty ends up getting Suzy's time) are usually then caught by a parent or swimmer checking the results. The protocol is the parent tells the coach, the coach comes and gets the information corrected. As far as relay name switches, most of the coaches that come to our meets know me because I have been running them for 10 years. They know how my table operates, and are good about getting the name changes to me.
At Masters, you don't always have that coach to be the go between.
Craig, this discussion was based on rules at the National Championship meet. Local meets tend to be a bit looser. At Bloomington they are not using MM, and are entering times into a spreadsheet, and don't have some of these issues.
We had a visiting ref come in to our meet last winter and lay down the law saying if a swimmer missed an event, the 1, would not get to swim it, and 2, according to USA handbook, got scratched out of their next event. I raised my eyebrow at both of these as we always have a significant amount of newbies at our meets, and while I realize that is the rules, we are not running a championship, and have always tended to be a bit friendlier than that and make sure the kids got their swim in, if we possibly could. So I went over and told the coaches to try and make sure their kids reported. The first day, the ref adhered and was strict. By the end of the evening, he realized he needed to be a little looser, realized that we would stay within our timeline if he did allow the missed swims. He adapted to the situation and all worked out well. I think his big concern was we were on a tight timeline, doing fly-overs to make it, and he did not want to put us in a situation of getting fined. Once he realized that our club as a group could efficiently handle these situations he was OK.
Bill, the missed event rule is on the Championship meet information. The rules Meg are citing about relays are from the rule book, and not on the Championship information. When looking at different situations, officials look at meet how the meet information is worded, and the rule book is worded. Those are the two sources that govern how to make rulings.
I am the opposite of Meg. The meets I run generally have about 400 swimmers. Since I am required to send the final results to Illinois Swimming the Monday after the meet, I prefer to make sure changes such as relay names happen as we are processing the information. So when I print the results, what is posted on the wall is results is as accurate as I can get it. Any inaccuracies(such as Suzy jumping into Betty's lane, so Betty ends up getting Suzy's time) are usually then caught by a parent or swimmer checking the results. The protocol is the parent tells the coach, the coach comes and gets the information corrected. As far as relay name switches, most of the coaches that come to our meets know me because I have been running them for 10 years. They know how my table operates, and are good about getting the name changes to me.
At Masters, you don't always have that coach to be the go between.
Craig, this discussion was based on rules at the National Championship meet. Local meets tend to be a bit looser. At Bloomington they are not using MM, and are entering times into a spreadsheet, and don't have some of these issues.
We had a visiting ref come in to our meet last winter and lay down the law saying if a swimmer missed an event, the 1, would not get to swim it, and 2, according to USA handbook, got scratched out of their next event. I raised my eyebrow at both of these as we always have a significant amount of newbies at our meets, and while I realize that is the rules, we are not running a championship, and have always tended to be a bit friendlier than that and make sure the kids got their swim in, if we possibly could. So I went over and told the coaches to try and make sure their kids reported. The first day, the ref adhered and was strict. By the end of the evening, he realized he needed to be a little looser, realized that we would stay within our timeline if he did allow the missed swims. He adapted to the situation and all worked out well. I think his big concern was we were on a tight timeline, doing fly-overs to make it, and he did not want to put us in a situation of getting fined. Once he realized that our club as a group could efficiently handle these situations he was OK.